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765 points MindBreaker2605 | 17 comments | | HN request time: 1.253s | source | bottom
1. 1zael ◴[] No.45897500[source]
"These models aim to replicate human reasoning and understanding of the physical world, a project LeCun has said could take a decade to mature."

What an insane time horizon to define success. I suppose he easily can raise enough capital for that kind of runway.

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2. lolive ◴[] No.45897519[source]
That guy has survived the AI winter. He can wait 10 years for yet another breakthrough. [but the market can’t]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter

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3. DaSHacka ◴[] No.45897603[source]
We're at most in an "AI Autumn" right now. The real Winter is yet to come.
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4. ahartmetz ◴[] No.45897630[source]
A pretty short time horizon for actual research. Interesting to see it combined with the SV/VC world, though.
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5. asadotzler ◴[] No.45897684{3}[source]
We have already been through winter.Ffor those of us old enough to remember, the OP was making a very clear statement.
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6. siva7 ◴[] No.45897691[source]
Zuck is a business guy, understandable that this isn't going to fly with him
7. whizzter ◴[] No.45897821[source]
I suspect he sees a lot of scattered pieces of fundamental research outside of LLM's that he thinks could be integrated for a core within a year, the 10 years is to temper investors (that he can buy leeway for with his record) and fine tune and work out the kinks when actually integrating everything that might not have some obvious issues.
8. lolive ◴[] No.45897831{3}[source]
Java Spring.

Google summer.

AI autumn.

Nuclear winter.

9. smartmic ◴[] No.45898030{4}[source]
Winter is a cyclical concept, just like all the other seasons. It will be no different here; the pendulum swings back and forth. The unknown factor is the length of the cycle.
10. jb1991 ◴[] No.45898188[source]
10 years is nothing.
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11. rsynnott ◴[] No.45898312{3}[source]
I assume they’re referring to the previous one.
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12. lolive ◴[] No.45898709{4}[source]
I still have to understand why you think another AI winter is coming. Everyyyybody is using it, everybody is racing to invent the next big thing. What could go wrong? [apart from a market crash, more related to financial bubble than technical barriers]
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13. rsynnott ◴[] No.45899856{5}[source]
> apart from a market crash, more related to financial bubble than technical barriers

_That is what an AI winter is_.

Like, if you look at the previous ones, it's a cycle of over-hype, over-promising, funding collapse after the ridiculous over-promising does not materialise. But the tech tends to hang around. Voice recognition did not change the world in the 90s, but neither did it entirely vanish once it was realised that there had been over-promising, say.

14. snapcaster ◴[] No.45901758[source]
Are you some kind of timeless being? it's a meaningful fraction of a human life
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15. jb1991 ◴[] No.45903462{3}[source]
In the context of technology, not the context of one life.
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16. KalMann ◴[] No.45904321{3}[source]
This seems like a strange comment to make since the above comment in no way suggests that we are currently in an AI winter.
17. KalMann ◴[] No.45904443{4}[source]
I think his point is it means a lot in the context of investors seeking to make returns on their investments.