←back to thread

.NET MAUI is coming to Linux and the browser

(avaloniaui.net)
303 points vyrotek | 2 comments | 11 Nov 25 22:50 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
Show context
judah ◴[11 Nov 25 23:49 UTC] No.45894501[source]▶
This is interesting for sure. Kudos for bringing this capability to the web!

One issue the demos reveal is, it doesn't _feel_ like the web. That is, I can't hit Ctrl+F to find text on a page. I can't select text with my cursor. I can't copy the address of a hyperlink. On my phone, I can't hard press on an image and share it to others. Screen readers can't handle it. I can't press a shortcut key to make everything larger.

These all may seem pedantic, but they contribute to the feeling "this is not the real web."

This is the same problem with Java applets in the late '90s, Flash and Silverlight in the early 2000s. They are islands of richness within a web page, but those islands are, well, opaque to browsers, search engines, and virtually all web tooling.

replies(14): >>45894544 #>>45894696 #>>45894702 #>>45894958 #>>45895158 #>>45895191 #>>45896100 #>>45896594 #>>45896771 #>>45897067 #>>45897513 #>>45899135 #>>45899880 #>>45902162 #
taftster ◴[11 Nov 25 23:55 UTC] No.45894544[source]▶
That's not pedantic at all! Indeed, without these capabilities, it is by some definition not the real web.

This hits into that concept of what exactly the "web" is. Is it just a media transport system? Or is it something more than that. Of course, we could cite Tim Berners-Lee here or Roy Fielding in this discussion.

But at minimum, I think a lot of us are tired of the app-lification of the web and somewhat wish we could have a bit of the old.

replies(3): >>45895172 #>>45895323 #>>45899708 #
1. ttd ◴[12 Nov 25 01:23 UTC] No.45895323[source]▶
IMHO there's no gatekeeper of what the "real" web is or should be. It grew organically - regular people building things they liked or needed. It's certainly more of a life necessity than it used to be, but that happened organically too.

I know there are strongly held opinions about this, but I for one see no reason why the "application web" can't peacefully coexist, and interlink with, the document web. In my opinion it therefore makes sense to allow for different models for the application web, ones that do not revolve around a document.

On the other hand, if we're just bashing on javascript being the lingua franca of the web, that's a train I'll happily board!

replies(1): >>45896389 #
2. DANmode ◴[12 Nov 25 04:30 UTC] No.45896389[source]▶
If the “application web” can’t share the text to another app,

then forget that.