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    287 points ridruejo | 11 comments | | HN request time: 0.652s | source | bottom
    1. tehjoker ◴[] No.45894250[source]
    We don’t need more weapons. We also don’t have real adversaries, that’s war propaganda.
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    3. dctoedt ◴[] No.45894306[source]
    > We also don’t have real adversaries, that’s war propaganda.

    Granting for the sake of argument the (gravely-unrealistic) premise, we have to "skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it is" — the father of hockey legend Wayne Gretzky, a.k.a. The Great One.

    4. tomrod ◴[] No.45894345[source]
    Looks like they want to add parts of South America to the hegemony, for reasons unknown.
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    5. gottorf ◴[] No.45894708[source]
    The Monroe Doctrine goes back 200 years; the reasons are quite well known.
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    6. Libidinalecon ◴[] No.45894847[source]
    You have to be completely insane to think China is not an adversary.

    Personally, I think we are in WW3 right now and we have already lost.

    Americans are just too lazy and insular to read anything involving Chinese military strategy. I can't think of more basic Chinese military strategy than to avoid a head-on battle with a strong enemy.

    You beat the strong enemy by every means other than a head-on battle.

    We are waiting for another battle of Normandy that will never come as we slowly bleed out.

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    7. HeinzStuckeIt ◴[] No.45895146{3}[source]
    The Monroe Doctrine was about preventing monarchies from operating in the Americas in a time when the United States was heady with its eighteenth-century democratic framework. The USA was preindustrial, trade was much simpler, and there was an honest belief among political elites that American democracy was uniquely good and a flame worthy of spreading.

    While the Monroe Doctrine persists, I think the actual reasons for it changed drastically by the twentieth century, when preventing foreign expansion in the Americas was so blatantly about protecting American economic interests, democracy in those countries be damned. And today geopolitical doctrine makes the other superpowers adversaries regardless of what political system they espouse.

    8. beeflet ◴[] No.45897179[source]
    What does venesuela have that we want? Consider the reasons known.
    9. blitzar ◴[] No.45897541[source]
    You have to be completely insane, or so deep in propaganda you are about to drink the cool-aid and ascend to the next life, to think you are currently at war with China.
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    10. GordonS ◴[] No.45897881{3}[source]
    Yet so many Americans really do believe that China is the boogey man de jour, out to steal their freedom.

    How many armed conflicts or foreign coups has China started or supported in the past 50 years? What about America? How many people has China executed with drone strikes in the past 15 years? And America?

    It's absolute madness that people are buying into this war-mongering FUD.

    11. silisili ◴[] No.45902716[source]
    Out of curiosity, I'd love if you'd expand a bit on this comment.

    Not meant sarcastically, and not because I want to refute anything, I'm genuinely curious what these tactics have been and why the US has already lost.