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285 points ridruejo | 12 comments | | HN request time: 0.535s | source | bottom
1. gjsman-1000 ◴[] No.45893863[source]
Nobody uses statutory titles for anything to be honest; when’s the last time you referred to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act instead of “Obamacare”? When’s the last time you referred to the Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance program instead of “Social Security”? I’ve never heard anyone say Title XIX of the Social Security Act instead of “Medicaid,” or Title XVIII of the Social Security Act instead of “Medicare,” or Temporary Assistance for Needy Families under the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act instead of “Welfare.”
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2. Terr_ ◴[] No.45893928[source]
> when’s the last time you referred to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act instead of “Obamacare”

I refer to it as "the ACA", which is short and avoids an unofficial moniker first introduced as an insult.

It's not just a personal preference, it's civically important: There are still morons out there who have spent the last 15 years simultaneously gushing about how the ACA is awesome while demonizing "Obamacare."

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3. Hizonner ◴[] No.45893961[source]
There's a difference between an informal name that catches on organically and isn't politically charged, and an highly visible, ostentatiously political renaming specifically intended to make a point.
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4. gjsman-1000 ◴[] No.45893979[source]
You’re telling me “Obamacare” isn’t politically charged? It was originally a political slur.
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5. gjsman-1000 ◴[] No.45894017[source]
ACA is still technically incorrect; as it’s actually statutorily the PPACA. Accuracy, am I right?
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6. Hizonner ◴[] No.45894111{3}[source]
1. It's not politically charged now.

2. It's not all over government Web sites. In fact I doubt it's on them at all.

3. Cabinet-level officials aren't giving stupid speeches about how important the name is in reflecting a Whole New Approach.

4. I don't remember Obama objecting to it at the time... nor did Obama go on TV and say "It will now be called OBAMACARE in honor of me, the greatest and only competent President ever".

5. Actually I don't remember it even being a "slur". The first draft was based on Romneycare. There was also "Hillarycare", which might have actually been pejorative. In any case it wasn't anything like on the level of the President or the Secretary of anything making a bunch of noise about it.

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7. koolba ◴[] No.45894316{4}[source]
> It's not all over government Web sites. In fact I doubt it's on them at all.

I can’t find reference to “Obamacare” but there is one for TrumpRx: https://trumprx.gov/

8. soulofmischief ◴[] No.45894570[source]
I say ACA, Obamacare is politically charged. And the cases you've mentioned all shorten a long name into a colloquial name. This is not the case for Department of War/Defense.

That said, let's call it what it is... it's a war machine. Just as we should refer to Israeli Occupation Forces and not "Defense" forces, since genocidal occupation is just about the furthest thing from defense.

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9. ImPostingOnHN ◴[] No.45894605{3}[source]
You're kind of proving their point: People seem to use common names (ACA, Obamacare, DoD) regardless of whether they abide by statute (PPACA) or executive meme-forcing (DoW).
10. johnnyanmac ◴[] No.45895540{3}[source]
By that position we should have been using TUSoA this whole time. US is wrong. USA is wrong.America is wrong.
11. Terr_ ◴[] No.45897131{4}[source]
> I don't remember Obama objecting to it at the time...

I remember that Democrats were accusing Republicans of violating the Hatch Act by using their official congressional mailers to say "Obamacare".

12. fnordpiglet ◴[] No.45897969[source]
I’ll always remember the turn around phrase that was a Yankee Doodle dandy moment “Obamacare because Obama cares”

It’s not a war machine, it’s a pork processing system for Congress.