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My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

(michael.stapelberg.ch)
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dr_pardee ◴[] No.45775823[source]
> I still don’t like macOS and would prefer to run Linux on this laptop. But Asahi Linux still needs some work before it’s usable for me (I need external display output, and M4 support). This doesn’t bother me too much, though, as I don’t use this computer for serious work.

“I don’t use this computer for serious work.” Dropped $3K on MBP to play around with. Definitely should have gotten MBA

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criddell ◴[] No.45775861[source]
If you are going to start making a list of expensive hobbies, $3K for a computer isn't going to be anywhere near the top of the list.
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asdff ◴[] No.45776238[source]
The type of person shelling out 3k for a computer is not running it until the wheels come off.
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brailsafe ◴[] No.45776964[source]
What does the purchase price have to do with it? Seems like it would entirely depend on circumstances and constraints, rather than cost, how long someone would run something
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asdff ◴[] No.45778021[source]
Tells me they are price insensitive and probably get a new computer every couple of years.
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biinjo ◴[] No.45779076[source]
That reasoning does not make any sense. I spend $3-4k on a MBP and run it till it fall apart, usually 5-7 years later.
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RossBencina ◴[] No.45779239[source]
I reckon it makes some sense for Apple users. You have to be willing (and financially able) to upgrade when Apple says. Apple forcefully obsoletes their products way too quickly to be a viable option if you care about longevity[0]. I have five excellent-condition still-perfectly-working Apple products next to me, none of which have current operating system support from Apple.

[0] EDIT: for reference, my previous ThinkPad lasted me 14 years.

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45764986 ◴[] No.45781778[source]
>I have five excellent-condition still-perfectly-working Apple products next to me, none of which have current operating system support from Apple.

If they're working perfectly, why does it matter if they have current operating support? It doesn't seem like you're dependent on Apple.

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kace91 ◴[] No.45782009[source]
Software drops support for certain OS versions even if the device still can run it.

The first iPad Pro can’t run adobe products for example.

The Mac is a bit more resilient to this, but it’s still worrying as yearly improvements become subtler.

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1. ryandrake ◴[] No.45787633[source]
Yea, this is the bigger problem: 3rd party software developers drop support for "too old" operating systems WAY too early. Especially on mobile. Some developers only support one major previous version, which is insane.

So, Apple leaves old hardware high and dry by not supporting them with operating systems, and 3P software leaves users high and dry by dropping support for operating systems. It's like they are working together to create e-waste.