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My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

(michael.stapelberg.ch)
245 points secure | 1 comments | 31 Oct 25 10:13 UTC | HN request time: 0.198s | source
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dr_pardee ◴[31 Oct 25 19:33 UTC] No.45775823[source]▶
> I still don’t like macOS and would prefer to run Linux on this laptop. But Asahi Linux still needs some work before it’s usable for me (I need external display output, and M4 support). This doesn’t bother me too much, though, as I don’t use this computer for serious work.

“I don’t use this computer for serious work.” Dropped $3K on MBP to play around with. Definitely should have gotten MBA

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criddell ◴[31 Oct 25 19:38 UTC] No.45775861[source]▶
If you are going to start making a list of expensive hobbies, $3K for a computer isn't going to be anywhere near the top of the list.
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IshKebab ◴[31 Oct 25 19:51 UTC] No.45776000[source]▶
I think it actually would be quite near the top, in terms of ranking. Most hobbies are a lot cheaper.

Of course, not near the top in terms of money because there are a few hobbies that cost vastly more.

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Onavo ◴[01 Nov 25 03:24 UTC] No.45779020[source]▶
Try general aviation as a hobby. It will be eye opening
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eastbound ◴[01 Nov 25 07:28 UTC] No.45779849[source]▶
Thinking it’s a hobby is an american thing. I’ve never met anyone who do it, but for Kobe Bryant, Harrisson Ford, Tom Cruise it seems normal.

Most people save $400 per month tops, that they spend on holidays.

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UniverseHacker ◴[01 Nov 25 15:09 UTC] No.45782231[source]▶
It’s a doable common hobby for middle class Americans. I grew up in a rural area with a dirt airstrip and everyone owned planes- even people that could barely afford a reliable used car. You can sometimes find something like an old Cessna for about $20k, and if you’re willing to do “experimental” planes that you fix yourself, sometimes just a few $k. Like anything, if you’re an insider in the community you can get good deals, sometimes even free from friends that age out, etc.

Many universities in rural areas have student clubs that offer lessons and rent club owned planes for cheap.

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prmoustache ◴[01 Nov 25 19:41 UTC] No.45784651[source]▶
> even people that could barely afford a reliable used car. You can sometimes find something like an old Cessna for about $20k,

Not sure what you call a "reliable used car". My low mileage for its age 2006 Mercedes B200 costed me 5.5k€ for instance. A car doesn't have to cost a lot to be reliable.

Around me $20k is an expensive price for a car and most people buy second hand +20y old cars they buy for less than 5k€.

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1. UniverseHacker ◴[01 Nov 25 21:53 UTC] No.45785751[source]▶
Cultural attitudes about that vary a lot by locale I think. That is not how most American consumers think, at least where I live… people largely consider older cars, especially German ones to be too unreliable to count on and they are (wrongly) believed to be so expensive to maintain that it will cost more than a new car- so they're categorically ruled out. Even people that can barely afford food or housing will often take out a loan for a new or nearly new car under the idea that they won’t get to work consistently otherwise.

I am also into older cars and can get a reliable car for a few hundred dollars, but I would never be able to convince anyone else I know that it is an option. So yea, you can get a reliable car for a lot less than a cheap airplane only if you don’t have some irrational bias against older cars.