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gcanyon ◴[] No.45775729[source]
This line from the ads always strikes me as darkly ironic:

> if you need help making responsible choices, call…

Like, the only “responsible” choice is not to gamble online. What do they even think we’re supposed to take away from that line of the commercial?

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savanaly ◴[] No.45776233[source]
> the only “responsible” choice is not to gamble online

I don't gamble at all in any form, but I still firmly disagree. Some people enjoy gambling in a way that never hurts them-- I've known countless friends and coworkers who talk about doing a bit of it in Vegas or what have you. You're saying every last one is a degenerate gambler somehow concealing it totally from me? They know they're not going net positive on the experience, usually lose some money, and get some entertainment.

There's a saying about this: abusers give vice a bad name. People should be free to gamble if they want to, and certain checks should be put in place for people who choose to gamble so much it is ruinous to themselves.

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lurk2 ◴[] No.45778084[source]
> You're saying every last one is a degenerate gambler somehow concealing it totally from me?

A person can be generally responsible while still making decisions that are irresponsible. Gambling has a negative expected value, and so is generally considered to be irresponsible. Gamblers will often counter that they expect to lose their money and consider it to be a form of entertainment, but the whole of the entertainment is in believing that you might get lucky; this is indistinguishable from the motivation of a gambling addict. You don’t see these people taking out $500 in 1s and setting them on fire for fun, even though this is the aggregate outcome of habitual gambling.

Some might protest that all forms of entertainment are like this: You take the $500, take it to a movie theater, and 16 hours later your money is gone and you’ve seen 10 movies. So far as I know, the identification of casual gambling with vice dates back to the Victorian Period. I suspect (but cannot confirm) that the reason gambling was identified as a vice where other forms of comparatively frivolous entertainment were not is due to gambling’s (false) promise of providing money for nothing.

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rufus_foreman ◴[] No.45778697[source]
>> Gambling has a negative expected value

Subscribing to Netflix has a negative expected value.

Ban Netflix.

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paulryanrogers ◴[] No.45785135[source]
You cannot bankrupt yourself, your family, and your friends by paying for Netflix. They will only take so much of your money.
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1. rufus_foreman ◴[] No.45785413[source]
There's more than Netflix. You can bankrupt yourself paying for things you can't afford.

Every streaming service you subscribe to has a negative expected value.