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derbOac ◴[] No.45766747[source]
They couldn't answer the question most on my mind: "We’ve reached out to Google to inquire about why a custom ROM created by volunteers is more resistant to industrial phone hacking than the official Pixel OS. We’ll update this article if Google has anything to say."
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LoganDark ◴[] No.45778032[source]
GrapheneOS makes security trade-off that are inconvenient to the user. This results in a far more secure device, but nonetheless a device that the general public would find far more annoying. Google would lose a proportion of its user base by implementing the same protections.

Example: https://old.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/ytk1ng/graphen...

Also Google Pay is missing.

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tranq_cassowary ◴[] No.45779111[source]
Google Wallet works but tap-to-pay NFC payments don't because Google enforces strong Play Integrity for that portion. They only allow Google certified OSes to use it. It's a sad choice on their part, not GrapheneOS' fault or choice.
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LoganDark ◴[] No.45779164[source]
Without Google Pay, Google Wallet is practically a glorified card number vault. Which can still be useful, just not at card terminals.
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tranq_cassowary ◴[] No.45779312[source]
True. This is an issue in America specifically. Where there is a Google Apple duopoly on tap-to-pay tech. Can be worked around though with smart watches like Garmin watch with Garmin Pay. In many other regions there are alternatives like Curve Pay or tap-to-pay functionalities in banking apps
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dns_snek ◴[] No.45779633[source]
Google Pay also works with a Pixel watch connected to a GrapheneOS phone, FWIW.
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LilBytes ◴[] No.45780173[source]
Oh is that right? That's cool. That might be enough to give Graphene another go, especially since Android Car is supported now. Thank you.
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subscribed ◴[] No.45781788[source]
Also Garmin watches if you'd prefer wearing something with battery lasting weeks, not hours ;)
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alex-korr ◴[] No.45783878[source]
That's what I use. The Garmin O/S UX is a bit ass, but usable and I never need to carry money if I am going on a run.
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1. subscribed ◴[] No.45784367[source]
"a bit ass" is a charitable way to put it, but same here, it's dependable, dead stable, good enough as a backup map.