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My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

(michael.stapelberg.ch)
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dr_pardee ◴[] No.45775823[source]
> I still don’t like macOS and would prefer to run Linux on this laptop. But Asahi Linux still needs some work before it’s usable for me (I need external display output, and M4 support). This doesn’t bother me too much, though, as I don’t use this computer for serious work.

“I don’t use this computer for serious work.” Dropped $3K on MBP to play around with. Definitely should have gotten MBA

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criddell ◴[] No.45775861[source]
If you are going to start making a list of expensive hobbies, $3K for a computer isn't going to be anywhere near the top of the list.
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asdff ◴[] No.45776238[source]
The type of person shelling out 3k for a computer is not running it until the wheels come off.
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brailsafe ◴[] No.45776964[source]
What does the purchase price have to do with it? Seems like it would entirely depend on circumstances and constraints, rather than cost, how long someone would run something
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asdff ◴[] No.45778021[source]
Tells me they are price insensitive and probably get a new computer every couple of years.
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biinjo ◴[] No.45779076[source]
That reasoning does not make any sense. I spend $3-4k on a MBP and run it till it fall apart, usually 5-7 years later.
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RossBencina ◴[] No.45779239[source]
I reckon it makes some sense for Apple users. You have to be willing (and financially able) to upgrade when Apple says. Apple forcefully obsoletes their products way too quickly to be a viable option if you care about longevity[0]. I have five excellent-condition still-perfectly-working Apple products next to me, none of which have current operating system support from Apple.

[0] EDIT: for reference, my previous ThinkPad lasted me 14 years.

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tuyiown ◴[] No.45780093[source]
14 years as your main driver ? Because that what we’re talking about.
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Too ◴[] No.45781505[source]
14 is a indeed very long. Let’s instead assume 12, it’s 2013 and you got a top specced T440 with 4th gen i7. That’s actually not bad and the build quality is like a tank as all Thinkpads. Nothing I would use as daily driver myself but having used many other thinkpads of that generation I can see why others are still getting by with it today.

Since we are talking about OS support. 4th gen Intel isn’t supported by Windows 11, so you’d have to upgrade to Linux.

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1. gcr ◴[] No.45782695[source]
Out of curiosity, how much of that thinkpad were you able to upgrade? Could that be the difference between 5 and 14 years here?