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ipython ◴[] No.45767903[source]
My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space).

Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're shut down because they're unpaid. And clearly this demonstrates the executive needs more power, since Congress is completely frozen. Finally, the Supreme Court is no longer an issue either, since that's not funded either.

Someone tell me why this couldn't happen.

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rogerrogerr ◴[] No.45767930[source]
I think if this was the plan, the right would be insisting on something more outlandish than a clean CR.
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SV_BubbleTime ◴[] No.45767978[source]
> clean CR

So dastardly that no one seems to be able to explain how dastardly it is.

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paulryanrogers ◴[] No.45768029[source]
'Clean' CR after they already rammed through their whole agenda in a huge bill that threatened worse cuts if the government shutdown. Yet it seems they cut with or without a shutdown.

Republicans have proven they won't follow the same rules and aren't negotiating in good faith.

They'll do whatever they can get away with, and if bad things happen (whether they are opposed or not) then it's anyone else's fault.

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SV_BubbleTime ◴[] No.45768384[source]
Rammed through, is an interesting way to write that they had the votes and passed HR1.

When Democrats had the Admin, Senate, and House, they put the ACA provisions on sunsetting subsidies in. How dastardly are the Republicans that they forced Democrats to do that when it was done with almost zero Republican votes?

Your post is just game. “My side is good and their side is evil”… don’t you get tired of that?

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svnt ◴[] No.45768417[source]
“We passed clean government funding that cost 20 million people their health care coverage.”

You are falling for semantics games.

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SV_BubbleTime ◴[] No.45768703[source]
It’s the CR that Dems passed last year.

Stop. You aren’t even falling for it. They’re using shutdown as leverage to try and get something they couldn’t get when they had all three houses. You can agree or disagree that is a good idea or that it will work, but can’t pretend it isn’t what it is.

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paulryanrogers ◴[] No.45770862[source]
Dems voted for the BBB under threat of worse cuts coming with a shutdown. The cuts and illegal actions continued. Going along with the bullies only proved that the bullies can push further.
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1. SV_BubbleTime ◴[] No.45782670[source]
So… absolutely normal politics.

If the Dems don’t like the political outcome of losing so many elections, they should propose popular policies ideas and candidates to win elections.