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You can't refuse to be scanned by ICE's facial recognition app, DHS document say

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579 points nh43215rgb | 3 comments | 01 Nov 25 08:58 UTC | HN request time: 0.661s | source
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hexbin010 ◴[01 Nov 25 13:30 UTC] No.45781498[source]▶
> “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and that an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate—if the app says the person is an alien,”

This is "computer says no (not a citizen)". Which is horrifying

They've just created an app to justify what they were already doing right? And the argument will be "well it's a super complex app run by a very clever company so it can't be wrong"?

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rgsahTR ◴[01 Nov 25 13:53 UTC] No.45781662[source]▶
> They've just created an app to justify what they were already doing right?

This was also one of the more advanced theories about the people selection and targeting AI apps used in Gaza. I've only heard one journalist spell it out, because many journalists believe that AI works.

But the dissenter said that they know it does not work and just use it to blame the AI for mistakes.

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1. JKCalhoun ◴[01 Nov 25 15:19 UTC] No.45782330[source]▶
Since your account is 17 minutes old, I have to assume you have been lurking for some time to "remember when…" on HN.

I am happy though that we are starting to seem more of this kind of content on HN. I understand that these political (?) posts can descend into finger-pointing and trolling. And that is too bad since I think we should not have blinders on in these rather unsettling times.

I will say that I remember when posts like this one were very quickly flagged when they hit the front page. I am happy to see that more and more people are finding them (unfortunately) relevant.

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2. throw-the-towel ◴[01 Nov 25 16:03 UTC] No.45782729[source]▶
This is probably a throwaway account. (Also, its username reads, shall I say, suspicious.)
3. zoklet-enjoyer ◴[01 Nov 25 16:11 UTC] No.45782820[source]▶
I lurked on HN for YEARS because I didn't even realize it was a message board haha. I had subscribed to the RSS feed and read the links but not comments. I thought it was just hacker news, as in a news aggregator.