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haunter ◴[] No.45765331[source]
Kind of telling that

1, the iPhone outsells every other category by 5-7x ratio, and the Mac (which includes everything from Macbooks to Mac Minis to iMacs) barely sells more than the iPad.

2, Services (iCloud, apps, music, TV shows etc.) now bigger than every other category, except the iPhone, combined

Basically 76% of the sales are iPhones and Services

(millions)

iPhone $209,586

Mac $33,708

iPad $28,023

Wearables, Home and Accessories $35,686

Services $109,158

Total $416,161

Next 5 years or so (or even less) both the iPad and the Wearables, Home and Accessories category will overtake the sales of Macs.

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827a ◴[] No.45765614[source]
> Next 5 years or so (or even less) both the iPad and the Wearables, Home and Accessories category will overtake the sales of Macs.

Are we reading the same quarterly report?

Wearables/Home/Accessories is slightly higher than the Mac, yes, but its a category that has been trending poorly for Apple for ~18 months now IIRC, and that hasn't gotten better this quarter (9.04B->9.01B 3mo YoY). There's no foreseeable future where Vision starts driving Mac-like revenue (meaning, it'll be at least 2 years). Airpods are huge mainstays but have really hit market capacity and aren't growing. Apple Watch will see strong growth if they can successfully get glucose monitoring working, but that's an *if, and until then its slipping from an "upgrade every 3 years" to even longer lifecycle for most people.

Meanwhile: Mac is their fastest growing hardware segment by revenue (+12% 3mo YoY) (iPhone is +6%, iPad is flat, Services +15%).

iPhone aint going anywhere, Services are carrying their growth, but Mac is very solidly the #3 darling of this report. Their other product lines (Apple Watch, iPad, Airpods, etc) are interesting, successful businesses, but its unlikely we're going to see much growth out of them over the next 2 years. The story is iPhone, Services, and Mac, in that order, and there's no #4.

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willtemperley ◴[] No.45766048[source]
I wonder how much the Windows 11 debacle will increase Mac sales by.
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nvarsj ◴[] No.45780754[source]
> the Windows 11 debacle

Seems to imply that anyone cares beyond a niche. I use Windows 11 on my gaming PC and emulator PC, and I don't care at all. It works perfectly fine.

OS X is much worse in my opinion, with awful window management and constant bugs breaking basic functionality.

The only decent OS experience I've ever had is with KDE and Gnome. But Linux sucks at running games, and there is no good Linux/x86 hardware out there.

Pick your poison.

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sotix ◴[] No.45781385[source]
> Linux sucks at running games, and there is no good Linux/x86 hardware out there.

This isn't true in the slightest. You must be dealing with some seriously outdated information.

I've been running games on Linux full time for 3 years. I made the switch the week Elden Ring launched when it immediately ran better on Linux than on Windows. That was the top selling game at the time. I've had extremely minimal performance issues since my switch. Other major games I've run include Baldur's Gate 3, multiple Resident Evil games, and the Oblivion remaster.

I'm running a 7600X with a 9070XT as of last month and am finding my hardware is perfectly fine.

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1. rkomorn ◴[] No.45781398{3}[source]
How're you finding the 9070XT? Are you gaming in 4K and/or with freesync?
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2. sotix ◴[] No.45783607[source]
Yes to both. It works very well! Admittedly, I just finished the original Half-Life, so I need to push it a little harder, but it's been capable of running Oblivion and Civ CII quite well.