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derbOac ◴[] No.45766747[source]
They couldn't answer the question most on my mind: "We’ve reached out to Google to inquire about why a custom ROM created by volunteers is more resistant to industrial phone hacking than the official Pixel OS. We’ll update this article if Google has anything to say."
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IncreasePosts ◴[] No.45777056[source]
Is grapheheOS actually harder to hack or does cellebrite just not put a lot of effort into supporting it because the very low odds of LEs running into one in the wild?
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tranq_cassowary ◴[] No.45779084[source]
All of the listed features significantly raise the bar for exploitation ;

https://grapheneos.org/features

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dotancohen ◴[] No.45780669[source]
So Graphene is actually more secure than most stock ROMs, but e.g. banking apps won't run on it "for security"?

Why can't the stock ROMs use these features and be more secure also?

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1. bjackman ◴[] No.45781306[source]
If apps refuse to run on graphene it's not because of graphene's content it's just a question of whether the attestation is recognised. It's not signed by Google.

I guess one reason you'd want to avoid that is that makes it harder to e.g spoof your location or falsely tell the app that screenshotting is disabled.

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2. ExpertAdvisor01 ◴[] No.45786071[source]
It's mostly preventing apps to be botted . As each device has its own certificate and can be banned exclusively, if it's google certified. This certificate( also called keybox/keybox.xml) is stored in the secure enclave in the device.

If you want to dive deeper you can checkout droidguard/play integrity.