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asimops ◴[] No.45776925[source]
While it is technically feasible, it is not a good idea to try and find a technical solution to a people/organisation problem.

Do not accept the premise of assholes.

I hope we can get the EU to fund a truly open Android Fork. Maybe under some organisation similar to NL Labs.

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Furthermore, the need for a trustworthy binary to be auditable to a certain hash or something would make banning this a simple task if Google would want to go that route.

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closeparen ◴[] No.45778511[source]
The same EU that's doing Chat Control?
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exe34 ◴[] No.45779799[source]
The EU is a big place, run by a lot of different people, with true separation of powers. They don't have a president-king who can just ignore court decisions.
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jmnicolas ◴[] No.45780320[source]
So we're gonna get access to Von Der Layen Pfizer sms right?

Were you offered to vote for Von Der Layen by the way?

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Certhas ◴[] No.45780532{3}[source]
The EU is a parliamentary democracy. Von Der Leyen was proposed by the democratically elected heads of the member states. She was approved by the democratically elected parliament.

The chancellor in Germany is also not directly elected by majority vote but by parliament.

Its a reasonable criticism that the EU structures make democratic legitimisation very indirect, but that is at least partly a result of the EU being a club of sovereign democracies. The central tension was extremely evident during the Greek debt crisis, you have a change in government in Greece, but due to EU level constraints they can't enact a change in policy. More independent power ininstitutions less dependent on the member state, means the sovereign democratic national governments can't act on their local democratic mandates.

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1. immibis ◴[] No.45780750{4}[source]
FWIW EU members are sovereign. If they disobey EU laws they can have benefits withheld but they won't be militarily invaded for ignoring EU law the way a US state would (unless they do something military themselves like invading another country).