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My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

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jofzar ◴[01 Nov 25 05:13 UTC] No.45779416[source]▶
> I don’t notice going back to 60 Hz displays on computers. However, on phones, where a lot more animations are a key part of the user experience, I think 120 Hz displays are more interesting.

I'm always so jealous of these people, 60hz is just so bad for me now and even make me a bit motion sick.

I can see it in everything, moving the window, scrolling, the cursor.

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1. hu3 ◴[01 Nov 25 07:50 UTC] No.45779922[source]▶
Same. I currently have a 160hz and a 240hz monitor. And I can tell the difference between them when scrolling pages with tons of text.

There's less ghosting in 240hz.

And scrolling on 60hz to me looks blurry.

I'd like to think that those who don't notice the difference have improved brain GPUs that can compensate for ghosting.

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2. andyferris ◴[01 Nov 25 12:56 UTC] No.45781276[source]▶
> I'd like to think that those who don't notice the difference have improved brain GPUs that can compensate for ghosting.

Wow. My perspective was those that did notice the difference were more perceptive. Thank you - now I realize there is a completely different take. (I'm not sure that it's helpful mind you... but it gives me something to chew on).

3. smileybarry ◴[01 Nov 25 15:02 UTC] No.45782166[source]▶
Wait until you try an OLED computer monitor, that screws with the "higher refresh rate => less ghosting" thought process completely.
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4. hu3 ◴[01 Nov 25 15:12 UTC] No.45782269[source]▶
Oh yeah I have an Oled LG C4 TV with 120hz refresh rate.

Can't go back to non-oleds.

5. prmoustache ◴[01 Nov 25 19:44 UTC] No.45784674[source]▶
How can you know it is not bias? For what its worth you might have never noticed any difference if you didn't knew they weren't refreshing at the same frequency.
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6. hu3 ◴[01 Nov 25 20:53 UTC] No.45785241[source]▶
Oh for me it's very clear.

Specially between 60hz and 120+.

Scrolling looks blurry/ghosted in 60hz.

I guess I could vibe code an app to set monitor Hz randomly in either 60 or 280 and test.

But it would be a waste of time from how clearly I can tell the difference.

7. ksec ◴[02 Nov 25 16:07 UTC] No.45791296[source]▶
For those of us who can see it, they are very noticeable. And could be told in blind testing 100% of times. After all 240Hz is still 4.1ms per frame, Again I have to point to this Microsoft Research Video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4