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shipman05 ◴[] No.45778266[source]
It feels like banning advertising for gambling would be a sweet spot between harm reduction and maintaining individual liberty.

Sports gambling ads have ruined sports media. State lottery ads are even worse. The government should not spend money to encourage its own citizens to partake in harmful activities.

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1. photon_garden ◴[] No.45779694[source]
Norway does a great job of this with the government-owned alcohol monopoly. The stores are always just a little bit out of the way, with slightly inconvenient hours. You can still get a beer if you want, but it takes a little bit of doing.
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2. kgwgk ◴[] No.45780203[source]
> You can still get a beer if you want, but it takes a little bit of doing.

It takes a little bit of money but you can get a beer at the supermarket.

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3. bongodongobob ◴[] No.45780695[source]
Why is that good
4. InMice ◴[] No.45780724[source]
Interesting, didn't know they do that. USA (mostly) doesn't do any to of that and alcohol consumption and its related social costs are declining.
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5. LadyCailin ◴[] No.45780900[source]
Or the bar.
6. bitmasher9 ◴[] No.45781222[source]
USA absolutely does things to reduce alcohol consumption. Most famously our high drinking age, but also high taxes, rules about public consumption, and various local laws.

Most countries will let 18 year olds drink beer in a park.

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7. the__alchemist ◴[] No.45781269[source]
It's like this for liquor (But not beer or wine) in some US states.
8. hollerith ◴[] No.45781319{3}[source]
Until 2004, Massachusetts banned alcohol sales for off-premise consumption on Sundays.

Still in effect is a ban on sales for off-premise consumption after 11:00pm and before 08:00am. Also, the number of stores that can sell alcohol for off-premise consumption is restricted by a quota system.

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9. premisis ◴[] No.45781758{4}[source]
Your premise, that a premise is a premisis, is incorrect.
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10. hollerith ◴[] No.45781814{5}[source]
I do not catch your meaning.

Experts sometimes spell it "off-premise":

https://www.nabca.org/covid-19-dashboards-premise-retailers has "While there are several different retail channels permitted to sell alcoholic beverages for offsite (off-premise) consumption".

https://www.parkstreet.com/states/california/ has "Retailers [c]an sell product directly to consumers for on or off-premise consumption".

"Off-premises" is also used.

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11. premisis ◴[] No.45781841{6}[source]
Check on that in a dictionary of repute.

My own folk etymology of this infelicity is that it started with the mispronunciation, which is actually hard to avoid in rapid speech, and bled over to people simply writing the wrong word.

Edit: [in reply to your edit]

It is indeed a rather common malapropism.

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12. Workaccount2 ◴[] No.45781871[source]
It varies heavily by state. In some places you can buy alcohol anywhere anytime it's open. On the other end there are limited stores that can only sell just beer or just liquor, and their hours are short and days limited. Some local areas are still "dry" and have no place to get alcohol.

It can be a real pain to get alcohol without planning in these places.

13. hollerith ◴[] No.45781991{7}[source]
I think I'm going to keep on spelling it the way I did.
14. BalinKing ◴[] No.45783534{7}[source]
The OED says that the "house or building..." use of "premise" actually comes from an earlier legal meaning ("The subject of a conveyance or bequest..."). Even for those who (inaccurately) think etymology determines "correctness", this isn't an incorrect use of the word.
15. BalinKing ◴[] No.45783545{5}[source]
"Premisis" is not an English word, as far as I can tell.
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