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A theoretical way to circumvent Android developer verification

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194 points sleirsgoevy | 4 comments | 31 Oct 25 20:20 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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asimops ◴[31 Oct 25 21:30 UTC] No.45776925[source]▶
While it is technically feasible, it is not a good idea to try and find a technical solution to a people/organisation problem.

Do not accept the premise of assholes.

I hope we can get the EU to fund a truly open Android Fork. Maybe under some organisation similar to NL Labs.

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Furthermore, the need for a trustworthy binary to be auditable to a certain hash or something would make banning this a simple task if Google would want to go that route.

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thaumasiotes ◴[31 Oct 25 22:25 UTC] No.45777355[source]▶
> I hope we can get the EU to fund a truly open Android Fork.

How are things in the EU on whether it's legal to buy a SIM card without showing ID?

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remix2000 ◴[31 Oct 25 22:41 UTC] No.45777503[source]▶
It is neither illegal nor hard to obtain such a prepaid SIM card.
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kube-system ◴[31 Oct 25 22:52 UTC] No.45777592[source]▶
That very much depends on the country, many require ID.
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Kwpolska ◴[31 Oct 25 22:57 UTC] No.45777633[source]▶
The ID presented at time of purchase does not have to be the ID of the actual user of the card. Your local drunkard will be happy to get $10 to buy a SIM card for you. Or you could visit eBay (or local equivalent) and get a valid SIM card without leaving your house.
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1. logifail ◴[01 Nov 25 04:22 UTC] No.45779234[source]▶
> The ID presented at time of purchase does not have to be the ID of the actual user of the card

In some EU member states this might be fine, but definitely not all.

> Your local drunkard will be happy to get $10 to buy a SIM card for you.

Buying a SIM card was always the easy bit. Getting it activated may not be, it depends on which country you're in.

https://www.telekom.de/prepaid-aktivierung/en/start

"For the Selfie-Ident you identify yourself with your identity card, passport or residence permit. (Selfie-Ident is currently possible worldwide with the German ID card, residence permit and passport. Alternatively, you can use Video-Ident and identify yourself in a video call with an employee.)

Important: Temporary identification documents are not supported due to internal check. You need a tablet or smartphone with a camera and an internet connection."

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2. econ ◴[01 Nov 25 05:50 UTC] No.45779518[source]▶
Surely others may use your phone?
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3. logifail ◴[01 Nov 25 20:04 UTC] No.45784876[source]▶
If you're happy to purchase a SIM card, register it in your name, and hand it to someone else for them to use, go right ahead.

Q: Who's paying the bills for that SIM?

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4. econ ◴[01 Nov 25 23:33 UTC] No.45786483{3}[source]▶
I was referring to this part

> > The ID presented at time of purchase does not have to be the ID of the actual user of the card

>In some EU member states this might be fine, but definitely not all

It seems hard if not impossible to prevent or stop?