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My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

(michael.stapelberg.ch)
240 points secure | 5 comments | 31 Oct 25 10:13 UTC | HN request time: 0.235s | source
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arbirk ◴[31 Oct 25 18:35 UTC] No.45775204[source]▶
You won't notice 8ms difference in input lag
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bitwize ◴[31 Oct 25 19:34 UTC] No.45775824[source]▶
Musicians can feel latencies as low as 1ms.

Apple is designing pro gear for its target audience.

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1. acjohnson55 ◴[01 Nov 25 00:40 UTC] No.45778249[source]▶
I highly doubt anyone notices 1ms latency. I might believe rare people can notice 10ms.
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3. koiueo ◴[01 Nov 25 03:16 UTC] No.45778972[source]▶
Anecdotically, 7ms vs 3ms latency is felt as weirdly heavy action when playing midi keyboard. It's not felt as latency, but it's felt. And I bet the difference could be reliably established in double-blind testing (3 samples, find an outlier).

1ms seems less believable, but I wouldn't be surprised, if some people could notice that too.

4. ksec ◴[01 Nov 25 05:23 UTC] No.45779441[source]▶
Again I have to point to this Microsoft Research Video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4

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5. msephton ◴[01 Nov 25 15:16 UTC] No.45782309[source]▶
Fantastic video. QED.