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    176 points mfiguiere | 14 comments | 30 Oct 25 20:34 UTC | HN request time: 0.568s | source | bottom
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    haunter ◴[30 Oct 25 21:04 UTC] No.45765331[source]▶
    Kind of telling that

    1, the iPhone outsells every other category by 5-7x ratio, and the Mac (which includes everything from Macbooks to Mac Minis to iMacs) barely sells more than the iPad.

    2, Services (iCloud, apps, music, TV shows etc.) now bigger than every other category, except the iPhone, combined

    Basically 76% of the sales are iPhones and Services

    (millions)

    iPhone $209,586

    Mac $33,708

    iPad $28,023

    Wearables, Home and Accessories $35,686

    Services $109,158

    Total $416,161

    Next 5 years or so (or even less) both the iPad and the Wearables, Home and Accessories category will overtake the sales of Macs.

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    j1elo ◴[31 Oct 25 20:35 UTC] No.45776423[source]▶
    I really don't get how people do research work (like finding good flight tickets, or comparing hotels to stay in for a trip) without a computer. I really cannot stand seeing websites in a small screen without the ability to quickly open 4 browser windows with 4 tabs each for different combinations of dates, for example.
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    moduspol ◴[31 Oct 25 20:57 UTC] No.45776607[source]▶
    I have literally watched my in-laws plan and book a vacation from their smartphones. From their house, where they also have computers.

    They're quite different from my side of the family, but the biggest thing is that they've never been big planners. Everything is by the seat of their pants. If you're like that, you're probably OK with taking one of the first three SEO-optimized search results and making it work.

    Meanwhile, I'm not booking anything until I have a proposed itinerary.

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    jdross ◴[31 Oct 25 21:08 UTC] No.45776722[source]▶
    How often do you get a meaningfully better result than google.com/flights? Outside of booking with points, it's all basically the same thing and I can book on google on my phone in under a minute
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    1. koyote ◴[01 Nov 25 00:28 UTC] No.45778186[source]▶
    I could go into detail how being able to have a dozen tabs open almost always gives a better result than simply picking the first flight on google flights. But let's assume there's no difference:

    Do you really want to use a phone's on-screen keyboard to type in your family's passport details, address, then credit card numbers, then review all of this to ensure your $2000 purchase doesn't have any typos or mistakes? If you have the choice to use a real computer for this, then why not? It's not like booking a big trip is something you do while sitting on a bus.

    Then of course there's accommodation, itineraries, visas, trip research...

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    2. lurking_swe ◴[01 Nov 25 07:02 UTC] No.45779754[source]▶
    just for the record, I completely agree that _research_ is way easier on a computer.

    But i take issue with this concern:

    > Do you really want to use a phone's on-screen keyboard to type in your family's passport details, address, then credit card numbers, then review all of this to ensure your $2000 purchase doesn't have any typos or mistakes?

    My iphone (safari) auto-fills almost all of those details. It’s also likely that semi-frequent travelers have an account with the airline in question, so passport and TSA precheck info is pre-saved too.

    It’s simply a non-issue in my experience.

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    3. curious_riddler ◴[01 Nov 25 07:09 UTC] No.45779778[source]▶
    Apparently the anxiety of making big purchases on phones is only a thing for the millennials and not really a thing for the younger generation.
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    4. fragmede ◴[01 Nov 25 08:01 UTC] No.45779969[source]▶
    Which it should be noted, may not even have a laptop. Probably not a desktop even.
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    5. rkomorn ◴[01 Nov 25 08:13 UTC] No.45780017{3}[source]▶
    > Probably not a desktop even.

    I'd be more surprised if they had a desktop than a laptop.

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    6. dividedbyzero ◴[01 Nov 25 09:55 UTC] No.45780460{4}[source]▶
    Gaming PCs are very often desktops, though I think those tend to be used more like consoles nowadays, not general purpose computers.
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    7. rkomorn ◴[01 Nov 25 10:09 UTC] No.45780520{5}[source]▶
    My anecdata is that the households I know that have desktops are gamers, yes, but:

    - the desktops in question tend to be "exclusively" used by one member of the household

    - the desktop owners usually also have a laptop

    - the desktop-owning households are well in the minority of households I know

    8. saaaaaam ◴[01 Nov 25 10:57 UTC] No.45780721[source]▶
    Indeed. I often complete purchases via mobile because the experience is better. For example, using Apple Pay. The ability to have details auto-fill works on desktop, but it works far better on mobile I find.

    The idea of manually typing any of this stuff in is very old fashioned.

    9. andyferris ◴[01 Nov 25 12:39 UTC] No.45781182[source]▶
    My personal experience is that Chrome on my PC is more reliable/predictable than Safari on my iPad.

    Now I am wondering if this is Safari/Chrome thing and not a mobile/desktop thing.

    Certainly if the autofill doesn't work and I do need to to type it in, the PC is way easier. I'm thinking international travel for 5 people - all my responsibility and I don't want to get held up half way across the world when no one has slept for a day, work visas beign contingent on correctness, etc.

    10. Nevermark ◴[02 Nov 25 05:34 UTC] No.45788046[source]▶
    I bought a Tesla in 2018 on my phone, only ever having seen one, and without ever having driven one. In a quiet/stalled moment while traveling.

    But that says 1000% more about impulsivity coming to my rescue, with reckless disregard for the risk of regret at the first sign of boredom, than any trust in mobile interfaces.

    I didn't (and would never) book the trip that cost a fraction of that on a phone or pad.

    11. skeuomorphism ◴[02 Nov 25 08:13 UTC] No.45788676[source]▶
    > Do you really want to use a phone's on-screen keyboard to type in your family's passport details, address, then credit card numbers, then review all of this to ensure your $2000 purchase doesn't have any typos or mistakes?

    Not only do they type it in, they let them save their information...

    12. nothercastle ◴[02 Nov 25 20:05 UTC] No.45792969[source]▶
    Yeah non issue for frequent travel people. If you only travel 2x a year always with different airlines then it’s a hassle.
    13. ejoso ◴[02 Nov 25 20:37 UTC] No.45793208[source]▶
    I’m wondering what the sample size is for this assessment. I know gen z people that don’t buy stuff on Amazon out of anxiety, let alone booking a 4 figure flight.

    Let’s not forget that a plurality exists.

    14. ejoso ◴[02 Nov 25 20:40 UTC] No.45793235{3}[source]▶
    Old-ish data, but US Census states that 81% of American households have at least one laptop or desktop. Tablets at 61%.

    https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2024/computer...