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Another European agency shifts off US Tech as digital sovereignty gains steam

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245 points CrankyBear | 3 comments | 31 Oct 25 16:39 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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mentalgear ◴[31 Oct 25 17:38 UTC] No.45774588[source]▶
Why would ANY global business still rely on U.S. Tech? The U.S. government, through their executive orders and dissolving of the separations of powers, has demonstrated its ability to unilaterally disrupt or shut down private technology services at will. How can any business justify depending on U.S.-based tech infrastructure when its access could vanish overnight on a political whim by an unstable president?

If there is no rule of law, capital, talent and trust are flowing out of that country - for good reason.

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jimbob45 ◴[31 Oct 25 18:42 UTC] No.45775281[source]▶
It’s Europe. They couldn’t even drop Russian oil imports despite them being an existential threat. They’re doing this because anti-US moves are trendy right now and that’s it.
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cassepipe ◴[31 Oct 25 18:57 UTC] No.45775433[source]▶
Some of us in Europe are ready to drop Russian oil imports whatever the cost. It's just russian backed populists are ready to rile the crowds for any price increase whatsoever and governments have to tread lightly all the time in order not to let power go to all those far right parties who would just buy the cheapest oil coming from anywhere as long as it allows them to remain in power.
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1. jack_tripper ◴[31 Oct 25 20:04 UTC] No.45776120[source]▶
>Some of us in Europe are ready to drop Russian oil imports whatever the cost.

Translation: "Some of us in Europe are ready to drop drop bread in favor of eating cake, whatever the cost."

Easy for you to write cheques that others have to cash. Be careful with such suicidal empathy, as that has second order effects that back-fire in spectacular fashion. That's why you're supposed to put your own oxygen mask on before helping others.

>It's just russian backed populists are ready to rile the crowds for any price increase whatsoever..

TIL that if you aren't gonna sacrifice yourself for Ukraine and prioritize your family's survival, wanting to have a job, a roof over your head and food on the table, somehow makes you a "Russian populist" now. Interesting logic.

You'd think much differently if you or your family would face unemployment, homelessness or malnourishment due to the economic damages caused by a surge in energy costs across the board. Half my immediate friend circle have lost their jobs in the last ~2 years due to the economic situation, my grandma can't afford her bills from her pension without financial support from us, while access public services like healthcare and childcare has only gotten worse, despite us paying more for everything. Not exactly the environment people feel like gutting themselves even further for a foreign country, whichever that may be.

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2. rwyinuse ◴[31 Oct 25 20:23 UTC] No.45776302[source]▶
Building an energy system dependent on Russian gas is, and always was an idiotic thing to do. I live in Finland, and our energy costs are pretty back to more or less what they used ot be, even though we live next to Russia.

I don't know where you're from, but at least Germany's problems run way deeper than their idiotic energy policies. Lack of investment in infrastructure, lack of innovation and all that. Even with cheap energy there's no way German car makers would compete, when Chinese make better EV's for less money. Laziness and lack of innovation is the problem, just like in European IT sector, which just buys everything from America.

Also, let's not forget the huge impact Covid spending had on inflation, and in turn interest rates & people's purchasing power. Ukraine war and sanctions against Russia are completely insignificant compared to that blunder. We're living the recession that was supposed to happen in 2020.

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