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Attention lapses due to sleep deprivation due to flushing fluid from brain

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593 points gmays | 2 comments | 31 Oct 25 13:14 UTC | HN request time: 0.401s | source
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HEmanZ ◴[31 Oct 25 16:26 UTC] No.45773856[source]▶
I hope that the actual medical field starts taking note of this.

My wife still has to work 24 hour shifts with no sleep, performing emergency surgeries no matter how long it has been since she slept. During residency only a few years ago she and her co-residents were almost weekly required to do 36 hour shifts (on top of their regular 16 hours per day, 5 day per week schedule) and once even a 48 hour shift when the hospital was short staffed.

Of course I’m sure they won’t. No one cares if doctors are over worked.

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1. ineedaj0b ◴[31 Oct 25 19:55 UTC] No.45776032[source]▶
her at her worst is better than 90% of people at their best.

if you get through and into a good med school -match into surgery- you are Peak in a way very few are.

I don’t see this changing unless they reduce the requirements for med school; if they let anyone in who wants in and force that group to work 30hr shifts - you’ll get enough bad outcomes the system will change.

There was a study, I believe on nurses and shift durations. The study found the nurses were happier with shorter shifts - but the patients did worse. Patients come first.

I could see a group of Doctors loudly proclaiming love for Donald Trump (and mentioning very much how great he is) and pleading the case for a change and something happening. He is an interesting president.

I would be interested in hearing a european drs perspective, I heard they work shorter shifts (but no EU dr I met has confirmed, it’s like meeting a unicorn)

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2. lostlogin ◴[31 Oct 25 20:34 UTC] No.45776405[source]▶
> her at her worst is better than 90% of people at their best.

A fraction of a fraction of a percentage of people are good at surgery.

If I need someone cutting me, I’d prefer someone good, and that they were rested.