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My_Name ◴[] No.45770715[source]
I find that they know what they know fairly well, but if you move beyond that, into what can be reasoned from what they know, they have a profound lack of ability to do that. They are good at repeating their training data, not thinking about it.

The problem, I find, is that they then don't stop, or say they don't know (unless explicitly prompted to do so) they just make stuff up and express it with just as much confidence.

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pistoriusp ◴[] No.45771093[source]
I saw a meme that I think about fairly often: Great apes have learnt sign language, and communicated with humans, since the 1960's. In all that time they've never asked human questions. They've never tried to learn anything new! The theory is that they don't know that there are entities that know things they don't.

I like to think that AI are the great apes of the digital world.

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MangoToupe ◴[] No.45771925[source]
> The theory is that they don't know that there are entities that know things they don't.

This seems like a rather awkward way of putting it. They may just lack conceptualization or abstraction, making the above statement meaningless.

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sodality2 ◴[] No.45772322[source]
The exact title of the capacity is 'theory of mind' - for example, chimpanzees have a limited capacity for it in that they can understand others' intentions, but they seemingly do not understand false beliefs (this is what GP mentioned).

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tics.2008.02.010

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MangoToupe ◴[] No.45774108[source]
Theory of mind is a distinct concept that isn't necessary to explain this behavior. Of course, it may follow naturally, but it strikes me as ham-fisted projection of our own cognition onto others. Ironically, a rather greedy theory of mind!
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1. galaxyLogic ◴[] No.45775896[source]
If apes started communicating mongs themselves with sign-language they learned from humans that would measn they would get more practice using it and they could evolve it over aeons. Hey, isn't that what actually happened?