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Havoc ◴[] No.45774330[source]
Even if you can’t move all of it now the basic building blocks like VMs and databases aren’t exactly cutting edge tech so should be doable.
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zoeysmithe ◴[] No.45774476[source]
Both those things are like the root account to one's data. If there is a hypervisor backdoor (or if your vendor is told by the government to stop giving you updates or sell you product, or even pull your keys) then its game over. DB's too because they're so mission critical and not trivial to move off.

As far as cloud goes, how many shops are now looking at bringing stuff back in because eventually cloud maximizes its profit margins and captured clients can't say no to ever increasing prices. I imagine leaving the US-owned cloud also means an opportunity to reconfigure what is on the cloud and if it needs to be there.

Here's hope desktop linux comes back into play.

As for Munich moving back to windows, who knows how much of that was 'checkbook diplomacy' of the USA demanding they go back to US products or the US will pull unrelated support or whatever. Now that the USA has become isolationist, if not a threat to the EU, those favors/checks aren't being cashed anymore. So much of this is not a meritocracy but instead the crony capitalism that defines the modern world. Maybe there's potential for actual merit now that the USA is losing global prominence in so many ways.

The EU liberated from US influence can lead to great things and this is a good start. For all the doom and gloom of politics today, the US's century of influence ending can only be a universally good thing, imho.

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Herring ◴[] No.45774678[source]
I’m the last person you can call a fan of US foreign policy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_U...

But for global stability it’s best if there was some kind of entity with a legitimate monopoly on force. It’s like I don’t want to live in a town where everyone has guns, I’d like a police force with accountability.

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1. kergonath ◴[] No.45775895[source]
Personally, I like a forum for sorting things out peacefully without relying on the goodwill of the bully du jour.

Your argument is not new and is exactly why enlightened absolute monarchs were fashionable at some point. It sounds good, but the problem is that this works as long as the monarch is good. When they aren’t, or aren’t any more, or their heir aren’t, then it’s horrible.

Democracy is an exercise in optimising for the middle ground: sure, it’s not going to be as efficient as a competent autocracy, but it limits the worst case scenarios.