How OpenAI uses complex and circular deals to fuel its multibillion-dollar rise

have you not been here for long enough? HN crowd is treating genAI the same way it treats blockchain, nothing new.

Yeah, Reddit has a strong anti-AI sentiment.

I'm not anti-AI, I'm just sceptical that it's as powerful as the AI companies are making out. I don't think we are anywhere near AGI, like centuries away.

I also don't think AI is going to be able to do all human jobs, in the physical world we have seen relatively little progress in robotics compared to the leaps made with transformers. And in the information world, while the LLMs can assist in many tasks and make workers more efficient I don't think they can entirely replace programmers (who are the expensive workers).

So yeah, I just don't think we are going to see the kind of world-changing benefits that OpenAI etc. are promising and which their valuations appear to be based upon.

Worse, honestly. There was a strong case to be made that crypto was absent of a real problem to solve. Meanwhile people use GenAI for real work every day and a disturbing cut of HN has their ears plugged, insisting it's a bubble and that everyone is lying about it working.

My team has shipped now heavily used features that are built with GenAI under the hood. I have a hard time not seeing the value in that technology.

Personally I haven’t seen blockchain make any impact whatsoever but maybe it’s just a little more niche or just a different one.

"Luddite" is the new "DEI" for tech-bros.

AGI isnt coming any time soon. The constraint on the progress toward it is R&D, and R&D requires an increase in high quality labour than what exists today.

We're all engineers here, you can't handwave all arguments as "luddites"

That means you'll have to, you know, actually use your brain and try to construct an argument on how any of this is good for people.

>We're all engineers here

Don't do this. HN has no interview, screening, or application process.

There's plenty people here on HN who are not even programmers. For a long time there were a significant amount of people here who were literally GME bagholders in a cult FFS

There is no reason to believe HN is any different than any other comments selection beyond some very minimal self selection bias, and that doesn't self select for competence. The self selection is "doesn't mind minimal UI"

Okay, sure, but we are probably all interested in tech. I know I am! Being interested in tech, though, doesn't mean that I blindly trust any and all new tech and marketing.

I mean, what OpenAI is saying about their value is marketing. It's sales. It's not technical. Doubting them doesn't make anyone a luddite.