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ipython ◴[] No.45767903[source]
My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space).

Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're shut down because they're unpaid. And clearly this demonstrates the executive needs more power, since Congress is completely frozen. Finally, the Supreme Court is no longer an issue either, since that's not funded either.

Someone tell me why this couldn't happen.

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rogerrogerr ◴[] No.45767930[source]
I think if this was the plan, the right would be insisting on something more outlandish than a clean CR.
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SV_BubbleTime ◴[] No.45767978[source]
> clean CR

So dastardly that no one seems to be able to explain how dastardly it is.

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paulryanrogers ◴[] No.45768029[source]
'Clean' CR after they already rammed through their whole agenda in a huge bill that threatened worse cuts if the government shutdown. Yet it seems they cut with or without a shutdown.

Republicans have proven they won't follow the same rules and aren't negotiating in good faith.

They'll do whatever they can get away with, and if bad things happen (whether they are opposed or not) then it's anyone else's fault.

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qcnguy ◴[] No.45770094[source]
They have a majority and campaigned on doing those things. They have a right to do it. The Democrats don't have a majority and it's bizarre/dysfunctional that they can force the entire government to shut down to try and get their agenda implemented, even though they lost the election.
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locopati ◴[] No.45771181[source]
That's not the way governance works. Did you feel that way when the Democrats held all three branches and still the Republicans did everything in their power to break government? Trump won the presidency by a slim margin... the Senate Republicans represent fewer people than the Democrats do. The government is designed to work together, unless one party decides to stop playing by any rules apparently.
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1. qcnguy ◴[] No.45771882[source]
What did they do in their power to break the government? They voted to reauthorize spending during Biden's presidency many times, did they not?
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2. thephyber ◴[] No.45778699[source]
This comment makes you look willfully ignorant of the statements and actions of Republicans in power.

Start with DOGE and Russel Vought’s actions. Then look at Congressional Republican’s recision bill, their lack of Article 1 oversight of what Trump’s Executive is doing, their consistent support of the Executive against any attempt by the Judicial to enforce the law.