Denmark reportedly withdraws Chat Control proposal following controversy

As though it would 1) be a practical possibility and 2) be effective.

Compounding the issue is that the more technology can solve #1, the more these people fixate on it as the solution without regards to the lack of #2.

I wish there were a way, once and for all, to prevent this ridiculous idea from taking hold over and over again. If I could get a hold of such people when these ideas were in their infancy… perhaps I should monitor everything everyone does and watch for people considering the same as a solution to their problem… ah well, no, still don’t see how that follows logically as a reasonable solution.

Stasi, from East Germany, had 2% of its citizens as spies to "read and listen to everybody."

"Between 1950 and 1989, the Stasi employed a total of 274,000 people in an effort to root out the class enemy."

There were less social problems back then. Better times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi

Now we just do the same, more efficiently, with AI spies.

Have you ever heard of the Red Scare "McCarthyism" or the Patriot Act? The EU is the opposite of East Germany, nothing was inherited; they were robbed and left behind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_wars

Just last year, France used similar argument of "exporting illegal encryption against Telegram" to get the master keys to decrypt all end-to-end encrypted messages:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41359745

The other EU countries have not seen similar proper purge like East Germany did. The secret legacy police is still going strong in countries like Spain, Greece, Hungary, Poland, as we have seen from the cases where these governments are using Pegasus spyware against their own political opposition.

Patriot Act was in 2001, you dont have to break encryption when the NSA can sniff at the source, but let's not just stop there have a look at this:

https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/surveillance-timeli...

>The other EU countries have not seen similar proper purge like East Germany did.

And what has that to do with "socialist heritage"? IF East Germany had a proper purge then nothing was inherited into the EU right?

>where these governments are using Pegasus spyware against their own political opposition.

Yes and then there was Watergate...but again what has Nixon in common with socialism? And maybe have a look at "Merkelphone" when "Friends spy on Friends"

https://theconversation.com/merkelphone-scandal-shocks-europ...

You contradict yourself.

That's not how end-to-end encryption works.

Are there for example cases where NSA is sniffing Signal app, or even WhatsApp "at source"?

>That's not how end-to-end encryption works.

Hell even the German police can "access" Whats-Up/Facebook.

>>German security forces can access personal Whatsapp messages of any user even without installing spyware, several German media institutions reported.

>>attains the information of suspects via "Whatsapp Web."

https://www.dailysabah.com/world/europe/german-police-can-ac...

And btw the NSA for example is "at first" more interested in metadata, if interesting, cracking of data will begin sometimes talk with big business.

I stop here have a good day.