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Denmark reportedly withdraws Chat Control proposal following controversy

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568 points layer8 | 4 comments | 30 Oct 25 21:35 UTC | HN request time: 0.764s | source
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ineedasername ◴[31 Oct 25 03:35 UTC] No.45768131[source]▶
I’m continually astounded that so many people, faced with a societal problem, reflexively turn to “Hmmm, perhaps if we monitored and read and listened to every single thing that every person does, all of the time…”

As though it would 1) be a practical possibility and 2) be effective.

Compounding the issue is that the more technology can solve #1, the more these people fixate on it as the solution without regards to the lack of #2.

I wish there were a way, once and for all, to prevent this ridiculous idea from taking hold over and over again. If I could get a hold of such people when these ideas were in their infancy… perhaps I should monitor everything everyone does and watch for people considering the same as a solution to their problem… ah well, no, still don’t see how that follows logically as a reasonable solution.

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1. Yizahi ◴[31 Oct 25 11:22 UTC] No.45770801[source]▶
The real root cause of many societal problems is that a significant portion of the population everywhere across the world is either unable or unwilling to think more than one step ahead. This why I believe most dumb decisions are voted for. One immigrant was bad? Lets ban all immigrants. One criminal slipped the police? Lets allow spying on his chat and catch him. Etc.

People refuse to think ahead, or simply can't.

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2. Yeul ◴[31 Oct 25 12:12 UTC] No.45771170[source]▶
Countries like Denmark are civilised and do spend literally billions on trying to protect and nourish children. And it is a credit to these nations and the people who dwell in them.

But the reality is that there will always be a scumbag dad who decides to molest his daughter.

HN assumes evil but this is a "road paved with good intentions" kind of deal.

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3. Yizahi ◴[31 Oct 25 17:04 UTC] No.45774242[source]▶
In this particular case it is obviously evil and misguided. There is no "iron wall" around EU phones or EU computers, a criminal can install literally anything on their PC and almost anything on their phones. So the real actual criminal won't be affected by the change at all, they will use software without backdoors for their shady stuff. This is obvious to everyone really, so this leads to a conclusion that the real reason for the enforced breaking of encryption is to spy on the political opposition, on the business competitors and in general promote a healthy fear and paranoia in society. Just what we need, in the age when EU enemies are acquiring more and more collaborators and tools inside EU, to disrupt and hopefully destroy the union.
4. 1718627440 ◴[31 Oct 25 21:37 UTC] No.45776982[source]▶
> HN assumes evil but this is a "road paved with good intentions" kind of deal.

They are the same picture. Every evil person thinks they have good intentions. The Nazis were literally thinking and saying they resurrect the German nation and lead Germany to the eternal, "thousand year long" empire.