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Max-Ganz-II ◴[] No.45766965[source]
Back in early 2022, a little after the war started, TransferWise blocked transfer (i.e. donation) to the account run by the National Bank of Ukraine for support of the Ukrainian military.

I have and never will forgive them for this.

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jesterson ◴[] No.45769053[source]
> I have and never will forgive them for this.

Ukraine is well known money laundering machine. Before the conflict started it was a well known fact and many banks didn't want to work with transfers to Ukraine. I am sure TransferWise shared similar risk model.

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bfkwlfkjf ◴[] No.45769549[source]
Everything you say might be technically true.

But if you look at the bigger picture, Ukraine has been invaded and occupied by a bigger countries which buys western banks to do it's money laundering through. Now is not the time to be discipling.

Justice is more than just following laws.

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1. cjs_ac ◴[] No.45769843[source]
Yes, but that's a matter to be settled in a court. Banks and other financial institutions have no business deciding what's just; they just follow the regulations given to them by governments and the courts.
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2. Max-Ganz-II ◴[] No.45770411[source]
Russia invaded Ukraine, inflicting untold horror, and Russia is a threat to Europe.

In the circumstances of early 2022, I would have expected a way to be found, in the knowledge that such an action - telescope held to blind eye - would be condoned.

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3. bfkwlfkjf ◴[] No.45771329[source]
That's your opinion. Businesses make their own decisions. You'd be aware if you knew anything about history.
4. jesterson ◴[] No.45779189[source]
> Russia invaded Ukraine, inflicting untold horror, and Russia is a threat to Europe.

Realistically it is way more nuanced than that. Its a juvenile worldview to think in black and white.

Not willing to start any discussion on the matter, but you may want to know about massacres ukraine did in it's eastern side. After all, the russian invasion wasnt that unprovoked at all (albeit as any force causing many to suffer, it's hard to justify it).

The bottomline is - reality is way more nuanced than just black and white.

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5. mieses ◴[] No.45779907{3}[source]
No, it's really very simple. What kind of person wants to become a CEO of Russia, Ukraine, or Transferwise?
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6. bfkwlfkjf ◴[] No.45781302{4}[source]
Or Wirecard lol
7. Max-Ganz-II ◴[] No.45781544{3}[source]
> Not willing to start any discussion on the matter, but you may want to know about massacres ukraine did in it's eastern side.

This is a Russian narrative.

> After all, the russian invasion wasnt that unprovoked at all

This also is a Russian narrative.

It seems to me you have been from some source been absorbing Russian material.

Putin is a dictator. A few years after he came to power in 2000, Russia was once again living in fear; you did not speak out. If you did, fines, prison, penal colonies with death and violence, or now and then being thrown out of windows.

It looks from material being produced by Putin, the State and the military Russia by about 2010 was looking to take Ukraine.

Putin had his man running Ukraine - into corruption and thuggery - until Euromaiden. He fled to Russia. Literally immediately after that, plan B - the small war began. Finally, 2022, the big war.

There is nothing here where we go "it was not that unprovoked".

Ukraine wanted, and wanted, freedom. To be itself, and not to live in a hell-hole dictatorship. Putin wants to possess Ukraine, because that's how he and it seems a good part of Russian State culture sees the world; in terms of power, conquest and territory.