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ipython ◴[] No.45767903[source]
My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space).

Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're shut down because they're unpaid. And clearly this demonstrates the executive needs more power, since Congress is completely frozen. Finally, the Supreme Court is no longer an issue either, since that's not funded either.

Someone tell me why this couldn't happen.

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Buttons840 ◴[] No.45768206[source]
Sometimes I do think the Democrats should just let Republicans ruin themselves on this issue. Make a fuss, make it clear you're worried about increasing health costs and are trying to stop it, but eventually, you might just have to let people experience the consequences of the party they elected.
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1. macinjosh ◴[] No.45768309[source]
The Democrats care about healthcare costs increasing like remember when Obama caved on the public option because he sold out to the insurance companies?
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2. Buttons840 ◴[] No.45768340[source]
Yeah, we need some better Democrats, and some better Republicans would be nice too. More populists, fewer protectors of the billionaires.
3. nobody9999 ◴[] No.45770030[source]
>The Democrats care about healthcare costs increasing like remember when Obama caved on the public option because he sold out to the insurance companies?

Actually, that was Joe Lieberman, not Obama if memory serves. And apparently it does.

According to Wikipedia[0]:

   The public health insurance option, also known as the public insurance option 
   or the public option, is a proposal to create a government-run health 
   insurance agency that would compete with other private health insurance 
   companies within the United States. The public option is not the same as 
   publicly funded health care, but was proposed as an alternative health 
   insurance plan offered by the government. The public option was initially 
   proposed for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, but was removed 
   after the independent US senator for Connecticut Joe Lieberman threatened a 
   filibuster.[1][2]
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_health_insurance_option