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Denmark reportedly withdraws Chat Control proposal following controversy

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569 points layer8 | 4 comments | 30 Oct 25 21:35 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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FinnKuhn ◴[30 Oct 25 23:07 UTC] No.45766467[source]▶
> The last chance for an agreement under Danish leadership is in December; the government in Copenhagen apparently preferred a compromise without chat control to no agreement at all. The current regulation, which allows the large platform providers to voluntarily and actively search for potential depictions of abuse, expires next spring after extension. It is precisely this voluntariness that Denmark's Minister of Justice now wants to codify within the framework of the future CSA regulation, which also contains a multitude of other, less controversial projects. [1]

Doesn't sound like it is over yet - only delayed.

[1] https://www.heise.de/en/news/Denmark-surprisingly-abandons-p...

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ericd ◴[31 Oct 25 00:03 UTC] No.45766914[source]▶
The "Yes"/"Maybe Later" school of governance.
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vkou ◴[31 Oct 25 00:43 UTC] No.45767154[source]▶
That is the only way to run a government.

Consider for a moment what a government of "Yes"/"No Forever, without ever revisiting the question" would result in.

We aren't at the end of history.

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shwaj ◴[31 Oct 25 00:52 UTC] No.45767213[source]▶
Nobody’s talking about a blood oath to promise never to revisit the issue. But there’s a different between leaving the door open to future reconsideration, versus pushing consistently against the wishes of the public and only backing off temporarily for tactical reasons.

And for some reason, once these things pass, it’s a one way door. When does the US public get a chance to reconsider the Patriot Act?

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vkou ◴[31 Oct 25 01:39 UTC] No.45767457[source]▶
The US public reconsiders it every time it sends a new congress in. Congress can repeal it in any session, they don't need to wait for it to expire.

Like, that's just the nature of representative democracy.

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1. Levitz ◴[31 Oct 25 02:39 UTC] No.45767749{3}[source]▶
Well yeah, it's exploiting a problem in representative democracy. That doesn't work unless people become single issue voters on specifically that matter, and in that case, you can just screw over the public with something else.

The practice deserves every bit of scorn it gets.

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2. vkou ◴[31 Oct 25 17:57 UTC] No.45774812[source]▶
It's not a flaw in representative democracy, it's a flaw in America as a whole. Most recently the public looked at the options before them, and chose to send in a slate of absolute lunatics in.

When you can't even figure out that having blatantly and openly vindictive and corrupt people in government is a bad idea, the fact that they aren't annually revisiting some legislature that's an issue for the 5% of the population that is the tech crowd isn't the problem. Like, it's a problem, but but it's not the problem.

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3. Levitz ◴[01 Nov 25 01:05 UTC] No.45778390[source]▶
This thread is literally about Denmark and the European Union.
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4. vkou ◴[01 Nov 25 17:35 UTC] No.45783567{3}[source]▶
It is, but the sub thread is for whinging about the Patriot act and why a representative democracy never gets the chance to repeal it. (Wherein I argue that it has plenty of chances, it just isn't an important political issue compared to, well, everything.)