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Meta and TikTok are obstructing researchers' access to data, EU commission rules

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187 points anigbrowl | 1 comments | 29 Oct 25 22:54 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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dmix ◴[29 Oct 25 23:46 UTC] No.45754615[source]▶
I'd hate to be the engineer that has to deal with these requests. Not even a formal government investigation, just any number of random 3rd party researchers demanding specialized access.
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consumer451 ◴[29 Oct 25 23:58 UTC] No.45754706[source]▶
> Engineer

Let me know when devs get stamps that make them legally liable for their decisions. Only then will that honor be applicable to software.

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tdb7893 ◴[30 Oct 25 00:18 UTC] No.45754863[source]▶
Most of my friends are mechanical or aerospace engineers and it's all the same job in a different medium (many do a significant amount of software as part of their work). They don't have stamps and aren't any more legally liable than we are and staying we aren't engineers just seems to be a misunderstanding of what engineering is.
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consumer451 ◴[30 Oct 25 00:26 UTC] No.45754933[source]▶
I grew up in a structural and civil engineering family. My issue is that there is no path to "professional engineer" or "architect" in software, which as a Hammurabi old, makes me suspect of the entire profession. I am involved in software dev, and I would never call it engineering. This might be niche semantics, and yet it feels very important to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_en...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi

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1. tdb7893 ◴[31 Oct 25 01:23 UTC] No.45767381{4}[source]▶
One of my friends is a mechanical engineer doing the most standard "nuts and bolts" form of engineering and by these standards he isn't even an engineer. I don't think there are any reasonable English speakers who wouldn't say he's an engineer (if he wasn't you would need to rename the whole field of mechanical engineering). You can have an idiosyncratic definition for personal reasons but it's probably best to realize that it's not the general definition of the word.