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Denmark reportedly withdraws Chat Control proposal following controversy

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568 points layer8 | 15 comments | 30 Oct 25 21:35 UTC | HN request time: 1.49s | source | bottom
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tokai ◴[30 Oct 25 23:25 UTC] No.45766633[source]▶
It's interesting that Peter Hummelgaard's former party comrade Henrik Sass Larsen recently got 4 months of prison for possession of child porn; 6200 pictures and 2200 videos.

So we are to believe Hummelgaard wants to protect children by enabling vast surveillance, so all the bad offenders out there can get ... 4 months in prison.

Its not really adding up. And he still hasn't presented any argument for the thing except that you are pro child abuse if you don't agree with him. I'm at the point where I hope he's corrupt and its not just all about power for him.

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1. zigzagger11 ◴[30 Oct 25 23:41 UTC] No.45766760[source]▶
Is that out of line with similar offenses in Denmark?
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2. hsbauauvhabzb ◴[30 Oct 25 23:55 UTC] No.45766868[source]▶
I’m not sure how punishments are calculated, but surely a former politician pedophile remains dangerous - even if they don’t abuse children directly they will have residual power that they can use to harm children. Or maybe the low sentence is because of his existing power.
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3. tokai ◴[31 Oct 25 00:12 UTC] No.45766962[source]▶
Its just not that illegal in Denmark. Something I would think minister of justice Hummelgaard should spend his time working on first, before pushing mass surveillance at the european level.
4. burnerzzzzz ◴[31 Oct 25 07:25 UTC] No.45769224[source]▶
The judge noted that given the publicity of the case, Henriks true penalty would be living in a country of 6 million people that all know his face and that he is a pedophile.

You don’t have to worry about him doing anything in Politics again. This isn’t the US after all…

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5. mrweasel ◴[31 Oct 25 08:42 UTC] No.45769697[source]▶
Last I read he's leaving the country and moving to Portugal.
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6. burnerzzzzz ◴[31 Oct 25 15:07 UTC] No.45772840{3}[source]▶
Being exiled is pretty rough, though the weather is better
7. whimsicalism ◴[31 Oct 25 16:15 UTC] No.45773741[source]▶
No one with evidence of that quality would ever be elected in national politics in the US again. Say what you will about Trump but there is no evidence that he possesses CP.

Moreover, nobody with that quality of evidence against them would be sentenced to only 4 months - laxity for CSAM possessors is a european phenomenon and most pro-pedophilia activist groups are based in Europe. The average sentence for CSAM possession in the US is 70 months.

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8. ashf023 ◴[31 Oct 25 16:32 UTC] No.45773917[source]▶
What an absolutely absurd statement
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9. port11 ◴[31 Oct 25 18:02 UTC] No.45774850[source]▶
Directive 2011/92/EU article 5.2 would suggest no less than 1 year of imprisonment. Depending on how kindly you read the other articles, and given how much pornography instances he had, I'd argue for more.
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10. burnerzzzzz ◴[31 Oct 25 19:31 UTC] No.45775801{3}[source]▶
care to clarify?
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11. ashf023 ◴[31 Oct 25 21:06 UTC] No.45776697{4}[source]▶
> Henriks true penalty would be living in a country of 6 million people that all know his face and that he is a pedophile.

This is what I object to, not really your comment. Is this factored into the sentencing? If he weren't a public figure would he have a harsher sentence?

> You don’t have to worry about him doing anything in Politics again

Sure, if everyone in Denmark remembers this guy then he won't be popular. But really we don't have to worry about him? 4 months later is he just free to go back to collecting CP, maybe leave Denmark, etc?

12. Jensson ◴[01 Nov 25 00:58 UTC] No.45778355{3}[source]▶
US also has the highest rate of imprisoned people in the world, I wouldn't follow them on sentencing. If revictivism is lower for short sentences then there is no reason to have long sentences, it isn't about punishing people it is about reducing problems for the rest of society.
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14. whimsicalism ◴[01 Nov 25 01:20 UTC] No.45778465{4}[source]▶
i agree with you on that, merely thought the suggestion that the US is somehow more permissive of pedophilia to be absurd.
15. giobox ◴[01 Nov 25 03:06 UTC] No.45778931[source]▶
I'm slightly confused here; the EU Directive you are listing has absolutely no bearing on this discussion or the case at all?

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/dir/2011/92/oj/eng

Article 5.2 concerns environmental impact assessments?

Even ignoring all this, Directives do not themselves automatically become enforceable in member State's legal systems either - "Regulations" do, and this is not one, the trial will be conducted subject to Danish criminal law.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_(European_Union)