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mmooss ◴[] No.45762412[source]
As I wrote elsewhere, the US government and economy are now essentially a private equity takeover for a large segment of wealthy business: Squeeze out as much money as possible short term - including by issuing debt againts its assets, slashing and burning any costs regardless of ROI and with no regard for the future, and leave the bankrupt husk for someone else to deal with.

The treatment of fossil fuels and renewables fits: Block the obviously more economical and better long-term solution in order to shovel money toward the entrenched wealthy. That it sabotages the future due to climate change and economic inefficiency doesn't seem to be a significant factor to them.

I forgot, one of the entrenched corporate wealthy told us that climate change isn't a big deal, and we should send money to his and his friends for solutions.

I'm not anti-business; in fact, quite the opposite: These policies block a free market and the brilliant new businesses that can thrive and deliver solutions to everyone.

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seanmcdirmid ◴[] No.45762459[source]
If only Musk didn't turn out to be such a twitt, Tesla was really supposed to be part of the solution but somehow Musk managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

The future is pretty much in China now as far as green energy tech and consumption goes. Two bad elections and the US has basically lost world leader status in just over a decade.

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bigyabai ◴[] No.45762653[source]
Musk chronically over-promised and terminally under-delivered. There was no world where he didn't end up being a twit, just one where we aren't stupid enough to fall for his lies.

Tesla, in particular, boils down to how Americans respond to marketing. We love the idea of buying organic, environmentally-friendly technology that makes us part of the solution. It doesn't matter if Congolese children are dying in the cobalt mines to make EV-grade lithium ion batteries, us Americans need to virtue signal with our wallet. Buy the latest iPhone, save up for a Tesla, it's all part of the new-age jewelry we wear to make ourselves feel worth something.

It was damn good marketing.

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mschuster91[dead post] ◴[] No.45763776[source]
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mschuster91 ◴[] No.45764356[source]
> What does anyone care about the people who attacked Israel?

I want to see theocracies gone.

> The Arab Gulf has rivers of oil required for driving human economic progress forward.

Solar energy is cheaper and it doesn't need to be trucked around on ships, threatening insanely expensive disasters.

> they have been consistent about suppressing Islamists within their borders.

... and instead funding them in Western countries, yeah. Saudi funded madrasa schools or imams funded by oilsheik countries are a massive problem, although I admit a part of that is our fault as well for not running theology studies in our universities for Islam (unlike for Christian denominations).

> Pinning Hamas on the Arab Gulf might advance your narrative, but it's provably false for anyone willing to actually probe that claim.

Well, Hamas is strongly supported by Qatar and Iran.

> LMAO. Imagine a (likely) Western European preaching about morals after ethnically cleansing three entire continents?

Just because we did massive mistakes in the past, there's no reason we have to continue doing them now.

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1. mullingitover ◴[] No.45765388[source]
> I want to see theocracies gone.

Israel has a long list of their own theocratic traits, fwiw. Unless you just don’t allow religious people to vote you’re never going to get a perfect secular government anywhere.