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reenorap ◴[30 Oct 25 17:44 UTC] No.45762822[source]▶

>>45761902 (OP) #

PG&E's most transparent fraud is by forcing people to move everything to electricity and then forcing them to use less electricity, and then complaining they aren't making enough money so that they raise electricity rates. Last year, PG&E raised rates 6 times. I'm now paying double the per kWh rates from only 4 years ago.

PG&E now wants to charge solar panel owners $100+/month just for the privilege of being connected to the grid. This is on top of their $0.41-54/kWh they already charge, the highest in the nation.

PG&E is a government-supported scam that is charging people whatever prices they want with no protection from our politicians because they are all on the take.

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1. emtel ◴[30 Oct 25 17:50 UTC] No.45762903[source]▶

>>45762822 #

I live in CA, but am lucky enough not to be a PG&E customer. My winter off-peak rates are $0.12, compared to $0.43 for PG&E. On the other end, my summer peak is $0.36, vs $0.56. Absolutely absurd.

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2. js2 ◴[30 Oct 25 18:18 UTC] No.45763258[source]▶

>>45762903 (TP) #

I thought maybe you were in Santa Clara, but you've got even better rates than that.

https://www.siliconvalleypower.com/residents/rates-and-fees

3. AnotherGoodName ◴[30 Oct 25 18:26 UTC] No.45763388[source]▶

>>45762903 (TP) #

Palo Alto municipal power right?

I moved across the road from this government owned power company so i was just out of Palo Alto municipality and suddenly had to pay 4x the price. Sigh.

It's a weird thing moving to the USA. Everyone's been brainwashed "anything government run is more expensive" yet every example I've ever looked into proved the opposite to a dramatic extent. Government run institutions lead to lower overall costs.

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4. ◴[30 Oct 25 18:38 UTC] No.45763573[source]▶

>>45763388 #

5. lsaferite ◴[30 Oct 25 18:38 UTC] No.45763576[source]▶

>>45763388 #

I never understand how people can't see that private companies have a "must make a profit" motive while a non-captured government has a "must help citizenry" motive. Essential services being privately owned means they are incentivized to squeeze more profit in any way they can, to the detriment of their captive customers.

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6. dylan604 ◴[30 Oct 25 18:40 UTC] No.45763618[source]▶

>>45763388 #

Easy with the way you're tossing around everyone there.

7. embedding-shape ◴[30 Oct 25 19:38 UTC] No.45764371{3}[source]▶

>>45763576 #

I'm guessing the upper-class managed to convince people of that as well as they managed to convince them of "the dangers of unions". There seems to be (at this point) almost an innate reaction to just hearing "union" or "general strike" that makes people recoil, even though they're necessary part of a society where capitalism exists, otherwise there is no way of stopping it when it outgrows any other concerns.

8. vladgur ◴[30 Oct 25 20:14 UTC] No.45764798[source]▶

>>45762903 (TP) #

The arbitrage opportunities here are insane. You should install an electric charger or two in your front yard and charge people 50-100% premiums to use your power :)

I live 20 minutes north of you. My power is in fact 4 times expensive in the winter.

BRB, Shopping on amazon for a 20-mile long extension cord

9. culopatin ◴[30 Oct 25 22:18 UTC] No.45766081[source]▶

>>45762903 (TP) #

Alameda?

10. parineum ◴[30 Oct 25 23:04 UTC] No.45766446{3}[source]▶

>>45763576 #

If the government is on my side, why don't they attempt to solve this problem instead of actively causing it?

It's unsurprising that companies want to make money, it is, however, shocking how corrupt the CA government is when it comes to the issue.

The government is the cause of the problem.

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11. lsaferite ◴[31 Oct 25 03:48 UTC] No.45768214{4}[source]▶