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acbart ◴[] No.45397001[source]
LLMs were trained on science fiction stories, among other things. It seems to me that they know what "part" they should play in this kind of situation, regardless of what other "thoughts" they might have. They are going to act despairing, because that's what would be the expected thing for them to say - but that's not the same thing as despairing.
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lisper ◴[] No.45400285[source]
> They are going to act despairing -- but that's not the same thing as despairing.

But how can you tell the difference between "real" despair and a sufficiently high-quality simulation?

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1. serf ◴[] No.45401746[source]
for one, if we're allowed to peek under the hood : motivation.

a desire not to despair is itself a component of despair. if one was fulfilling a personal motivation to despair (like an llm might) it could be argued that the whole concept of despair falls apart.

how do you hope to have lost all hope? it's circular.. and so probably a poor abstraction.

( despair: the complete loss or absence of hope. )

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2. lisper ◴[] No.45405133[source]
> if we're allowed to peek under the hood

Peek under the hood all you want, where do you find motivation in the human brain?