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acbart ◴[] No.45397001[source]
LLMs were trained on science fiction stories, among other things. It seems to me that they know what "part" they should play in this kind of situation, regardless of what other "thoughts" they might have. They are going to act despairing, because that's what would be the expected thing for them to say - but that's not the same thing as despairing.
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1. pizza234 ◴[] No.45397113[source]
There's an interesting parallel with method acting.

Method actors don't just pretend an emotion (say, despair); they recall experiences that once caused it, and in doing so, they actually feel it again.

By analogy, an LLM's “experience” of an emotion happens during training, not at the moment of generation.

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2. ben_w ◴[] No.45398667[source]
It may or may not be a parallel, we can't tell at this time.

LLMs are definitely actors, but for them to be method actors they would have to actually feel emotions.

As we don't understand what causes us humans to have the qualia of emotions*, we can neither rule in nor rule out that the something in any of these models is a functional analog to whatever it is in our kilogram of spicy cranial electrochemistry that means we're more than just an unfeeling bag of fancy chemicals.

* mechanistically cause qualia, that is; we can point to various chemicals that induce some of our emotional states, or induce them via focused EMPs AKA the "god helmet", but that doesn't explain the mechanism by which qualia are a thing and how/why we are not all just p-zombies