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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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873 points helsinkiandrew | 3 comments | 25 Sep 25 15:06 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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bArray ◴[25 Sep 25 16:11 UTC] No.45374662[source]▶
The issue that people have with Israel's actions is the death of civilians, not the death of Hamas, the widely recognised terrorist. I believe it also to be true that the IDF do not want to kill civilians, and that their target is only Hamas.

In which case, is it prudent to remove the IDF's ability to successfully target the correct people? Precise military intelligence is absolutely necessary for minimising civilian casualties.

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umanwizard ◴[25 Sep 25 17:05 UTC] No.45375577[source]▶
> Precise military intelligence is absolutely necessary for minimising civilian casualties.

Whatever they've been doing on that front doesn't seem to be working so far...

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ars ◴[26 Sep 25 07:48 UTC] No.45383903[source]▶
It's so weird how people think the casualty rate in Gaza is high, it's actually incredibly low, virtually no other army in the world could achieve such a low collateral damage rate in urban warfare against guerillas.
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Moru ◴[26 Sep 25 08:04 UTC] No.45383989[source]▶
The killings are not only direct hits with bullets. They are also blocking food, medicine and healthcare. Noone can survive without food. The goal is not to kill hamas, that was just the excuse, it is to clear the ground for new settlements.
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1. ars ◴[26 Sep 25 17:00 UTC] No.45388674[source]▶
I think the total reported deaths from food issues - as reported by Hamas mind you - are in the 1,000 range. Which is still a very small number for a war zone.

> The goal is not to kill hamas, that was just the excuse, it is to clear the ground for new settlements.

Israel has explicitly stated that this is NOT the goal, are you in a position to change their policy or something? I don't get how you think you can determine their goals for them, unless you are a member of their government (are you?).

Your stated goal doesn't even make any sense - why would they even need to "clear ground" in the first place? Just go live in those houses. And if you mean "kill people", then why are the deaths so low?

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2. Moru ◴[29 Sep 25 09:23 UTC] No.45411782[source]▶
I watch independent news from official sources, not an american news source.
3. Moru ◴[29 Sep 25 14:42 UTC] No.45414440[source]▶
The 1000 civilians dead were in connection to food distribution. That number should be 0 even in a war zone.

Israel has been taking over palestinian villages for a very long time, murdering the inhabitants. The government is fueling the hate. They aren't even affraid to say it out aloud. I have seen several reports where they are calling for genocide.