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dark_mode ◴[] No.45375569[source]
> The decision has not affected Microsoft’s wider commercial relationship with the IDF, which is a longstanding client and will retain access to other services. The termination will raise questions within Israel about the policy of holding sensitive military data in a third-party cloud hosted overseas.

It's worth noting that even after finding out the "most moral" army is conducting mass surveillance, they're still happy to provide them services.

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tick_tock_tick ◴[] No.45377762[source]
Doesn't every army conduct "mass surveillance"? What do you think all those satellites with cameras are doing orbiting the planet?

Wouldn't the opposite be incredibly immoral? Attacking/bombing/etc without large scale surveillance would largely mean increased collateral damage.

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ycombigators ◴[] No.45379765[source]
It would be pretty difficult for the IDF to increase their level of collateral damage.
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sir0010010 ◴[] No.45381536{3}[source]
In 1945, about ~90k people died over 2 days from the Tokyo Firebombing. Do you think it would be difficult for any modern millitary - that intentionally wanted to cause as much collateral damage as possible - to greatly exceed that number?
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fjdjshsh ◴[] No.45381838{4}[source]
Not sure what is your point. The Israeli military could throw a few atomic bombs and wipe out the entire population in Gaza. That they don't is a sign of restraint for you?
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jlawson ◴[] No.45382083{5}[source]
The point is that they could do similar attacks to the Tokyo firebombing (or much worse), but choose not to.

Yes, that is a sign of restraint, obviously.

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1. clanky ◴[] No.45382853{6}[source]
The only thing it's a sign of is that the Israelis face restraints from political and PR pressures that did not apply to bombing Tokyo.
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2. jlawson ◴[] No.45419550[source]
Goalpost moving.

Now you're saying, okay they do have restraint, but what I really meant was their restraint is driven by the PR concerns, not by their own moral hearts. Well, that's pretty different accusation now.

I'm glad you've conceded the original point that they do indeed have restraint. Thank you.