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sharpshadow ◴[] No.45374509[source]
It would be only just if the Palestinians would get their own state after this.
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skinkestek[dead post] ◴[] No.45374724[source]
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RajT88 ◴[] No.45375010[source]
Other commenters are right, but I'll point out another fallacy you're pushing here.

The current situation is like somebody commits a murder. Then the community rounds up a posse and goes out to kill the murderer. Then kill the murder's family, their neighbors, the residents of the next neighborhood over, raze the neighborhoods and then take all the land for themselves.

Justice means penalizing the guilty parties, not everyone in their geographical/social group. Your definition of Justice is leaky.

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dotancohen ◴[] No.45375098[source]
But isn't that what Hamas did? Broke into homes and burned babies to death? Beheaded people? Pulled fetuses from pregnant women? Shoot up clinics and murder the entire staff and patients?
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LightBug1 ◴[] No.45375366[source]
Getting away from the debate around your details (most of which didn't happen) ...

A singular terrorist event is not the same as an multi-decade occupation, on-going theft of land, discrimination, annexation plans, and - not least - a 2 year long genocide of tens of thousands of civilians.

So, no, that isn't what Hamas did.

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skinkestek ◴[] No.45376475[source]
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1. LightBug1 ◴[] No.45378945{3}[source]
I accept it's reasonable that sexualised violence took place. I accept the what happened on 7th Oct was a horrible terrorist act.

But, and apologies if this hurts, none of that, absolutely none of that, justifies what has taken place since.

There is no place in this world for genocide. Particularly from a country that preaches "never again".

Nothing you can say will change my opinion on that.

Israel has really fucked up. It destroyed Gaza, yes. But in so doing destroyed it's reputation and standing for at least a generation.