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vFunct[dead post] ◴[] No.45374012[source]
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throw744849599 ◴[] No.45374535[source]
IBM has a long tradition to provide computers for such use cases ;)
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grumple ◴[] No.45375644[source]
> This war that European Jews started in 1948 when they decided to attack and invade Palestine spans 2 continents, and more if you include the various attacks elsewhere.

This is extremely ignorant. Jews have lived in Israel continuously for 3000 years. The modern Zionist migration, which started in the late 19th century (far from the first such movement for the Jews, and far from the last we've seen globally for all peoples), was met with violence by the Arabs with pogroms and organized violence starting in the 1920s. It was the Arab nations who attacked the Jews in 1948, not the other way around, and both Jews and Arabs were displaced in the war. Prior to then, there was no land "stolen" by Jews, just land legally purchased from Arab landowners. We'll ignore the fact that the Muslim caliphates and Ottomans stole the land in the first place and focus on the modern conflict. We can also ignore the repeated mass-murders / pogroms of Jews throughout Israel and the rest of the Arab/Muslim world in the 19th, 18th, 17th, 16th, and prior centuries, since acknowledging that Jews were repeatedly killed in Safed and elsewhere would require you to acknowledge they existed there and were oppressed by the people and dhimmi laws of the Muslim empires.

The Arabs were and are the equivalent of the xenophobic Trump supporters in the US - they didn't want Jews coming in, buying land, working and thriving, etc. Do you also support violence against non-white migrants in the west?

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1. SilverElfin ◴[] No.45378510[source]
Thank you. Although I have no personal interest in the outcomes of this conflict, it is astounding to see how these basic historical facts are not only unknown to so many people who hold strong opinions on the Israel-Gaza conflict, but also outright denied. I guess this must also be how Holocaust denialism was ever a thing.