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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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873 points helsinkiandrew | 2 comments | 25 Sep 25 15:06 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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sharpshadow ◴[25 Sep 25 16:02 UTC] No.45374509[source]▶
It would be only just if the Palestinians would get their own state after this.
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skinkestek[dead post] ◴[25 Sep 25 16:15 UTC] No.45374724[source]▶
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thrownawayohman ◴[25 Sep 25 16:28 UTC] No.45374926[source]▶
“Now imagine this scenario and ignore everything else that’s happened for the last 60-70 years and oh yeah, don’t mention the current genocide.”
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skinkestek ◴[25 Sep 25 16:36 UTC] No.45375063[source]▶
Let's not ignore the last 60-70 or even 1400 years.

Israelis hit back hard. But they haven't been the ones to declare war on peaceful neighbors.

It wasn't them who stood for thr München massacre or a number of plane hijackings in the 70ies.

It wasn't Israelis who blew up buses in Gaza.

Was it?

We must stop confusing powerful with evil and currently helpless with "innocent".

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Huntsecker ◴[25 Sep 25 17:00 UTC] No.45375479[source]▶
1400 years ? it was a creation of the second world war, but anyway regarding neighbors you mean other than bombing iran, syria, yemen, lebanon I believe in all these cases israel attacked first and thats in the past 12months. I think your point was meant to be more that Israel has a right to defend its self and I think most people and countries would back Israel in that right if the response had been proportionate. instead theyve killed record numbers of journalists(worst in history https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/ng-interactiv...), 70% of the dead are women and children (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo), more than a thousand are dead due to starvation directly caused by Israel, this isn't how wars are fought.
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1. SilverElfin ◴[25 Sep 25 20:21 UTC] No.45378462[source]▶
> it was a creation of the second world war

The modern state of Israel with its present borders were a creation of the Second World War. But if you go back in time to ~1000 BC, Jewish people occupied the entire region (much broader than just Israel), and they are the only surviving indigenous people of the region. This isn’t even controversial. Virtually all historians and scholars acknowledge this because there is literal physical evidence in the buildings at Temple Mount and elsewhere, which are all dated back to that time.

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2. skinkestek ◴[01 Oct 25 07:00 UTC] No.45435101[source]▶
Good points.

You will probably also like to know that the plans for a modern Israel started long before WW2 and Holocaust, and originally not because of persecution of Jews by Europeans in Europe but because of persecution of Jews by Arabs in the middle East.