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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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873 points helsinkiandrew | 1 comments | 25 Sep 25 15:06 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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sharpshadow ◴[25 Sep 25 16:02 UTC] No.45374509[source]▶
It would be only just if the Palestinians would get their own state after this.
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skinkestek[dead post] ◴[25 Sep 25 16:15 UTC] No.45374724[source]▶
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RajT88 ◴[25 Sep 25 16:33 UTC] No.45375010[source]▶
Other commenters are right, but I'll point out another fallacy you're pushing here.

The current situation is like somebody commits a murder. Then the community rounds up a posse and goes out to kill the murderer. Then kill the murder's family, their neighbors, the residents of the next neighborhood over, raze the neighborhoods and then take all the land for themselves.

Justice means penalizing the guilty parties, not everyone in their geographical/social group. Your definition of Justice is leaky.

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dotancohen ◴[25 Sep 25 16:38 UTC] No.45375098[source]▶
But isn't that what Hamas did? Broke into homes and burned babies to death? Beheaded people? Pulled fetuses from pregnant women? Shoot up clinics and murder the entire staff and patients?
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ARandumGuy ◴[25 Sep 25 16:51 UTC] No.45375329[source]▶
Nothing Hamas has done justifies what Israel is doing to Palestinian civilians, because collective punishment is a war crime. "But they did it first" is not a valid excuse, especially when trying to excuse mass starvation and bombing population centers.
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1. SilverElfin ◴[25 Sep 25 20:09 UTC] No.45378293[source]▶
Is it collective punishment or just really difficult to successful take down terrorists, destroy their weapons, and free hostages when they hide among civilians in a highly dense place? How would you suggest a country like Israel could definitely put an end to Hamas so their citizens are not experiencing risk? And how do you separate the “civilians” from Hamas when they voted for Hamas, support them today, and so on, knowing full well what their goals are (religious supremacy and genocide)?