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bArray ◴[] No.45374662[source]
The issue that people have with Israel's actions is the death of civilians, not the death of Hamas, the widely recognised terrorist. I believe it also to be true that the IDF do not want to kill civilians, and that their target is only Hamas.

In which case, is it prudent to remove the IDF's ability to successfully target the correct people? Precise military intelligence is absolutely necessary for minimising civilian casualties.

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basilgohar ◴[] No.45376729[source]
It is the IDF and Israel governments explicit goal, as stated by high up government officials and leaders, to eradicate all Palestians in Gaza. A cursory view into their own Hebrew media make this abundantly clear.

They are committing a genocide in both word and deed.

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js212 ◴[] No.45377199[source]
A few government officials have said this. No one part of the War Cabinet has said this and it is definitely NOT the explicitly goal of the IDF.

This is entirely made up.

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Hikikomori ◴[] No.45377663[source]
>I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.
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1. zdragnar ◴[] No.45378254[source]
> We are fighting human animals

What else do you call people who rape and murder civilians, then parade their dead bodies around to cheering crowds?

Hamas will never have any sympathy from most people who watched the October 7 attack footage.

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2. mrguyorama ◴[] No.45379245[source]
Refusing to distinguish between random Palestinians and Hamas members is literally the entire problem

I have ZERO issue with the IDF killing Hamas. That's what you do in a war. But we have ample evidence that Israel and the IDF is not making any effort to not kill random Palestinians.

They made some stupid AI algorithm to feed data into in order to generate target lists. They accepted something like 10:1 "innocent palestinian":"literal terrorist" ratios. They have no qualms about killing a 10 innocent Palestinians to kill a single Hamas terrorist

This is unacceptable.

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3. SilverElfin ◴[] No.45379422[source]
> Refusing to distinguish between random Palestinians and Hamas members is literally the entire problem

Well, it is difficult to distinguish between the two when you’re hunting down terrorists who hide among civilians. But also, let’s not forget - the civilian population of Gaza VOTED for Hamas. In polls they still show support for Hamas even after October 7. There are videos of those civilians cheering in the streets while the naked bodies of raped / murdered women were paraded down the street by Hamas terrorists. I don’t think you can pretend “random Palestinians” are entirely innocent either.

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4. nahuel0x ◴[] No.45380061{3}[source]
It's very easy to distinguish a children from a terrorist, children are no terrorists, also, children didn't vote anybody. However, the IDF is killing thousands of children in the most horrible ways.