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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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873 points helsinkiandrew | 2 comments | 25 Sep 25 15:06 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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jajuuka ◴[25 Sep 25 15:38 UTC] No.45374111[source]▶
Wow, they actually are pulling back. That is really surprising. Wonder if they see the winds changing on this issue and want to get on the right side of history. Big props to everyone at Microsoft who spoke out about this and risked or lost their jobs because of it. They kept that fire lit on their ass.
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rhetocj23 ◴[25 Sep 25 15:41 UTC] No.45374165[source]▶
Sentiment toward Israel outside of USA has changed.

The leaders of the developed nations of Europe have gone against Trump and publicly stated their recognition of Palestine.

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some-guy ◴[25 Sep 25 15:46 UTC] No.45374251[source]▶
It has changed quite a bit here in the US too, even among the Jewish population. Our synagogue is very divided on this, mainly between the young and the old.
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Joeboy ◴[25 Sep 25 17:07 UTC] No.45375603[source]▶
“There you are, Mr. Netanyahu! Just who do you think you are, killing thousands and flattening neighborhoods, then wrapping yourself in Judaism like it’s some shield from criticism? You’re making life for Jews miserable, and life for American Jews impossible!” - Jewish character on the latest South Park, a show created and run by two Jewish people.

Also ”It’s not Jews vs. Palestine, it’s Israel vs. Palestine!”

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flyinglizard ◴[25 Sep 25 18:50 UTC] No.45377155[source]▶
Palestinians don't discern Jews and Israelis. If you listen to this recording you'll understand - they're after the Jews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bACNYtaLBQI
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Joeboy ◴[25 Sep 25 19:20 UTC] No.45377626[source]▶
I think you're probably propagandizing rather than trying to engage coherently with the conversation, but perhaps I'm missing something.
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1. flyinglizard ◴[25 Sep 25 20:03 UTC] No.45378209[source]▶
I was directly referring to your closing line saying ”It’s not Jews vs. Palestine, it’s Israel vs. Palestine!”. Given that about half of Israelis are Arab in origin, and about a fifth are proper Muslims, the objection of Palestinians is not to Israelis but to Jews. The video I linked demonstrates the common mode of thought in that part of the world.
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2. Joeboy ◴[25 Sep 25 20:44 UTC] No.45378790[source]▶
You linked audio of a phone call from a Hamas terrorist, as evidence that "Palestinians don't discern Jews and Israelis". I hope you can see the irony there.

There's also, I think, an irony that antisemites and Zionists are united in their their efforts to conflate Jewishness with the actions of the Israeli state. I think it's a welcome development that Parker / Stone / Sheila Broflovski aren't going along with it.