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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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873 points helsinkiandrew | 6 comments | 25 Sep 25 15:06 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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bArray ◴[25 Sep 25 16:11 UTC] No.45374662[source]▶
The issue that people have with Israel's actions is the death of civilians, not the death of Hamas, the widely recognised terrorist. I believe it also to be true that the IDF do not want to kill civilians, and that their target is only Hamas.

In which case, is it prudent to remove the IDF's ability to successfully target the correct people? Precise military intelligence is absolutely necessary for minimising civilian casualties.

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zawaideh ◴[25 Sep 25 18:11 UTC] No.45376619[source]▶
It is a genocide. They are targeting civilians.
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1. davidjeet ◴[25 Sep 25 18:55 UTC] No.45377239[source]▶
Proof? Or just what is convenient for you to believe?

If anything, quite the opposite. Think about this logically - why the need for expensive surveillance if your chief goal was to annihilate a population?

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2. rcpt ◴[25 Sep 25 19:21 UTC] No.45377635[source]▶
It's already been linked in the thread

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intent_and_incitement_in_the...

3. dunekid ◴[25 Sep 25 19:55 UTC] No.45378122[source]▶
>why the need for expensive surveillance if your chief goal was to annihilate a population

A question suited for ITF and Netanyahu maybe? Ask them spend less. He gets to prolong this Genocide, then he gets to stay out of trial for his previous crimes. Maybe ITF is not in a hurry.

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4. zawaideh ◴[25 Sep 25 21:51 UTC] No.45379611[source]▶
For those looking for direct sources on the findings of genocide in Gaza, here are several key reports and legal conclusions from human rights organizations, international courts, and genocide scholars:

1. UN Commission of Inquiry: Concluded that Israel has committed genocide in the Gaza Strip. * Report: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/israel-has-c... * Press Conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trUcK8hHaIA

2. Amnesty International: Concluded that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza. * Statement: https://www.amnesty.org/en/petition/end-israels-genocide-aga...

3. B'Tselem (The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories): Published their conclusion that Israel is committing genocide. * Report ("Our Genocide"): https://www.btselem.org/publications/202507_our_genocide

4. International Court of Justice (ICJ): Ruled in January 2024 that it is plausible Israel's acts could violate the Genocide Convention. * Case Details: https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192

5. Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention: Issued an "Active Genocide Alert" in October 2023, warning of the high risk of genocide. * Alert: https://www.lemkininstitute.com/active-genocide-alert-1/acti...

Beyond these formal reports, it's crucial to acknowledge that this has been one of the most documented atrocities in history, often livestreamed by Palestinians on the ground. Their testimonies have been consistent from the beginning, yet they are frequently dismissed until a non-Palestinian, "human" source validates their lived experience.

5. Sporktacular ◴[25 Sep 25 21:57 UTC] No.45379695[source]▶
Genocide is not the same as extermination. The goal of expulsion is to obtain land. Surveillance programs facilitate ethnic cleansing by countering resistance.
6. adultSwim ◴[27 Sep 25 04:03 UTC] No.45393132[source]▶
> why the need for expensive surveillance if your chief goal was to annihilate a population?

Gaza has long been a showroom and R&D space for technologies of oppression. Field proven platforms sell.