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politelemon ◴[] No.45374648[source]
I am seeing several kneejerk "Microsoft bad" reactions here, which HNers don't do for many other companies. I encourage many of you to read what is written.

They listened to their internal staff and stakeholders and public pressure, and did terminated the contract instead of ignoring it or doubling down.

That is a good thing.

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n1b0m ◴[] No.45374815[source]
They fired staff who protested against the firm’s ties to the IDF.
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sugarpimpdorsey ◴[] No.45374921[source]
That's a funny way to say "they fired staff that vandalized company property, broke into the CEO's office, and used an internal company website to publish and promote anti-company propaganda".

That will get you fired from bussing tables or washing dishes, let alone a six-figure job at MS.

Edit: Source on the last one; the first two were widely reported on in media:

https://lunduke.substack.com/p/fired-microsoft-employee-enco...

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nashashmi ◴[] No.45374950[source]
One protestor was fired after interrupting a CEO's speech.
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duxup ◴[] No.45375803[source]
I feel like interrupting a CEO's speech at a big conference is pretty well understood to be a social indicator of a high level of insubordination. I suspect the protestor knew that too.

The consequences were appropriate, even if I might share some of the protestor's concerns.

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rkachowski ◴[] No.45376947[source]
You feel that being fired is an appropriate consequence to interrupting a CEO?
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1. sugarpimpdorsey ◴[] No.45377022{6}[source]
Interrupting a speech? Yes. It demonstrates a lack of maturity, decorum, and is completely unprofessional. Someone who pulls these shenanigans is unworthy of the role they were hired for. This isn't high school anymore. They were hired to perform productive work not be disruptive and play pretend activist.
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3. 34679 ◴[] No.45377226[source]
You lost me at "pretend activist". This person put their job on the line for what they believe in, and in a public enough way that complete strangers are discussing it on the internet. That's real activism.
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4. sugarpimpdorsey ◴[] No.45377263[source]
If they don't like it, they don't have to work there.

All these people hate on their employer and customers whilst simultaneously drawing a salary.

If they put their money where their mouth is, they can all quit en masse and let the company deal with customers without employees to support.

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5. nashashmi ◴[] No.45378023{3}[source]
If they don't like it, they can voice what they don't like. And that is what happened here.
6. Dylan16807 ◴[] No.45378129{3}[source]
In general, continuing to get paid while being disruptive and forcing them to fire you is more activist than quitting.