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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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873 points helsinkiandrew | 3 comments | 25 Sep 25 15:06 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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sharpshadow ◴[25 Sep 25 16:02 UTC] No.45374509[source]▶
It would be only just if the Palestinians would get their own state after this.
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skinkestek[dead post] ◴[25 Sep 25 16:15 UTC] No.45374724[source]▶
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cowpig ◴[25 Sep 25 16:25 UTC] No.45374876[source]▶
You are thinking of "Palestinians" as a collective group, synonymous with a group of extremists who have done horrible things

Just as most of the citizens of Iran are victims of an Islamic totalitarian government, just as many Germans were victims of the fascist dictatorship that took hold of their nation, most human beings living near the southeast bit of the Levantine Sea are victims of actions outside their control.

They're collectively paying the price for horrific violence on both sides of an ugly, tragic conflict that they have no power over.

Giving those victims some sovereignty and peace would not be "rewarding" extremists, it would be taking a tiny step towards sanity.

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skinkestek ◴[25 Sep 25 16:39 UTC] No.45375109[source]▶
So, do we owe Germany an apology after we obliterated it to stop the nazis?

Or is it kind of logical that when you vote actual genocidal maniacs into power and cheer for them as they return from murder and rape, you hide the hostages they took and refuse to do anything to stop them, then maybe you aren't completely innocent?

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1. Fraterkes ◴[25 Sep 25 17:05 UTC] No.45375573[source]▶
Can you make this a bit clearer for me? Quantify it? How much hardship should someone endure to make up for voting for Hamas? Losing a home? A limb? A friend? A child?
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2. skinkestek ◴[25 Sep 25 17:27 UTC] No.45375955[source]▶
Historically you can look at Germany in 1944 and 1945 and get an idea about what people think is fair.

Hope this helps.

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3. Fraterkes ◴[25 Sep 25 19:13 UTC] No.45377514[source]▶
Why can’t you just say what you mean? Are you embarrassed?