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tiahura ◴[] No.45373783[source]
A little more surveillance might have prevented Oct 7.
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michens[dead post] ◴[] No.45373903[source]
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HappyPanacea ◴[] No.45373951[source]
There is no evidence whatsoever that was false flag attack. I didn't expect such blatant conspiracy theories on HN.
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nsriv ◴[] No.45374031[source]
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-07/ty-article-ma...

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dismalaf ◴[] No.45374290{4}[source]
Yes, Netanyahu thought that pulling out of Gaza completely, giving them money and allowing them to hold jobs in Israel would improve their economic standing enough to make them docile enough to not attack. He was obviously wrong.

And preferring them to the PLO in the wake of the second intifada was reasonable. All Palestinian groups claim to want to kill all Jews, but at that point in time the PLO had actually done it for decades. For the record, the PLO still has the pay-to-slay program...

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dragonwriter ◴[] No.45374440{5}[source]
Israel, despite its PR, never actually took its foot off Gaza conpletely, continuing regular unprovoked cross-border killings of civilians within Gaza, among other means of exercising control and preventing economic development and activity (though for preventing economic activity specifically, other means were more significant, mainly the intermittent blockade before 2007 and the full blockade from 2007 on.)
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1. dismalaf ◴[] No.45375229{6}[source]
> unprovoked

Your bias is showing...

"Unprovoked", except the regular rocket attacks and other acts of terrorism.

Israel actually put up with a lot, way more than any other country would, because they had the Iron Dome.