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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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873 points helsinkiandrew | 9 comments | 25 Sep 25 15:06 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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jajuuka ◴[25 Sep 25 15:38 UTC] No.45374111[source]▶
Wow, they actually are pulling back. That is really surprising. Wonder if they see the winds changing on this issue and want to get on the right side of history. Big props to everyone at Microsoft who spoke out about this and risked or lost their jobs because of it. They kept that fire lit on their ass.
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slantedview ◴[25 Sep 25 15:41 UTC] No.45374160[source]▶
Last week a UN human rights commission found that Israel is carrying out a genocide. I think you're right that the winds have changed and now companies will shift their positions.
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mrits[dead post] ◴[25 Sep 25 15:43 UTC] No.45374208[source]▶
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computerex ◴[25 Sep 25 15:46 UTC] No.45374257[source]▶
The word genocide has a legal definition, it’s not up for discussion or debate. What is happening in Gaza is a genocide according to genocide scholars.
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1. skinkestek ◴[25 Sep 25 16:22 UTC] No.45374833[source]▶
It shouldn't be.

But here we have UN and other twisting it to fit a situation that clearly weren't meant to be covered by it.

Because if the war in Gaza can be called a genocide so can almost every single other major war!

Also it is absolutely ridiculous to call a war that is started by one side, and one that only that side can end, a genocide against the same side that started it!

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2. ascorbic ◴[25 Sep 25 19:02 UTC] No.45377337{3}[source]▶
> Hamas executes possible the worst sexual terrorism since the rape of Nanking in 1937: not a word about war crimes.

What are you talking about? The ICC issued an arrest warrant for war crimes for the Hamas leadership

3. Manuel_D ◴[25 Sep 25 23:45 UTC] No.45380779[source]▶
This is indeed a big obstacle to credibly calling the Israel-Palestine conflict a genocide. Germany lost ~10% of it's population in WW2. France lost 4% in WW1. Less than 1% of the Palestinian has been killed since Oct 7.

Heck, the US Revolutionary war saw the British perpetrated genocide against the Colonists if the military actions following Oct 7 count as a genocide.

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4. komali2 ◴[26 Sep 25 02:28 UTC] No.45381930{3}[source]▶
Again, it's time to open your eyes, you are on the wrong side of history.

The world isn't against you, it's against what Israel is doing to Palestine. You don't have to dig your heels in.

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5. skinkestek ◴[26 Sep 25 06:04 UTC] No.45383217{4}[source]▶
The emperor has no clothes even if he, the entire royal court and the newspapers report it.
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6. ragazzina ◴[26 Sep 25 06:54 UTC] No.45383556[source]▶
In your opinion, is there a neutral organization in the world that could define whether the legal definition of genocide is being met or not?
7. ragazzina ◴[26 Sep 25 06:57 UTC] No.45383576[source]▶
> Germany lost ~10% of it's population in WW2.

75% of those were military deaths, 25% civilian deaths. In Gaza the numbers are switched.

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8. Manuel_D ◴[26 Sep 25 14:49 UTC] No.45387165{3}[source]▶
Even if the numbers are true, that leaves Germany with 2x the proportion of civilian deaths.
9. komali2 ◴[27 Sep 25 17:33 UTC] No.45397775{5}[source]▶
In this case you're believing the emperor. Remember the "terrorist check in list" that was just a calendar? Israeli propagandandists don't even have the respect to make up plausible lies anymore.