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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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873 points helsinkiandrew | 13 comments | 25 Sep 25 15:06 UTC | HN request time: 0.407s | source | bottom
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jajuuka ◴[25 Sep 25 15:38 UTC] No.45374111[source]▶
Wow, they actually are pulling back. That is really surprising. Wonder if they see the winds changing on this issue and want to get on the right side of history. Big props to everyone at Microsoft who spoke out about this and risked or lost their jobs because of it. They kept that fire lit on their ass.
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rhetocj23 ◴[25 Sep 25 15:41 UTC] No.45374165[source]▶
Sentiment toward Israel outside of USA has changed.

The leaders of the developed nations of Europe have gone against Trump and publicly stated their recognition of Palestine.

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some-guy ◴[25 Sep 25 15:46 UTC] No.45374251[source]▶
It has changed quite a bit here in the US too, even among the Jewish population. Our synagogue is very divided on this, mainly between the young and the old.
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1. sieep ◴[25 Sep 25 15:57 UTC] No.45374412[source]▶
Very true. I've gone on dates with a couple Jewish women over the past two or three years & they've all staunchly supported Palestine which surprised me a bit.
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2. zeroonetwothree ◴[25 Sep 25 16:06 UTC] No.45374575[source]▶
Your sample size of two surely is conclusive? lol
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3. Aeolun ◴[25 Sep 25 16:06 UTC] No.45374584[source]▶
Why would that surprise you? I think the opposite opinion is a lot more surprising.

One in every 50 children in Gaza was killed by the Israeli military. That’s like killing a child in every second classroom in the US…

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4. sieep ◴[25 Sep 25 16:12 UTC] No.45374674[source]▶
I'm just speaking from my personal experience and don't mean to draw any conclusions about anything.
5. sieep ◴[25 Sep 25 16:13 UTC] No.45374696[source]▶
That's a fair point. My gut reaction is that people will default to tribalism, but I think this has been a different situation than most others (and going on a lot longer).
6. sa501428 ◴[25 Sep 25 16:15 UTC] No.45374732[source]▶
Why is it surprising?

Fwiw my Jewish friends have also been quite vocal in opposing Netanyahu/Likud, usually more vocal than Muslim friends.

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7. khazhoux ◴[25 Sep 25 16:28 UTC] No.45374924[source]▶
I can understand your skepticism, but this is an example of what is termed “normal human conversation,” where people share their personal experiences. Quite often, one will find people sharing stories without the backing of statistical evidence.
8. DSingularity ◴[25 Sep 25 16:38 UTC] No.45375094[source]▶
I think it’s surprising because Israelis are very loud in their support for Netanyahu. Yeah, there are protests but it polling suggests that the overwhelming majority of Israelis support Netanyahu.
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9. sieep ◴[25 Sep 25 16:40 UTC] No.45375124[source]▶
My gut assumption is that people will default to tribalism, but that has proven to be wrong over the past few years.
10. js212 ◴[25 Sep 25 19:02 UTC] No.45377346[source]▶
I think the fact that you have gone on dates with Jewish women shows they don’t really care about being Jewish.
11. js212 ◴[25 Sep 25 19:03 UTC] No.45377357{3}[source]▶
No they are not. It’s like 20%
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12. swat535 ◴[25 Sep 25 21:03 UTC] No.45379050{4}[source]▶
Comments like that reminds of people asserting blanket statements like: majority of Iranians support the regime and hate Jews!

Like do people not realize Iranian Jews also exist?

Anyway I digress..

13. DSingularity ◴[26 Sep 25 01:44 UTC] No.45381635{4}[source]▶
Over 60% of Israelis believe there is nobody innocent in Gaza. That’s like the core operating principle of the Netanyahu-Smotrich-Ben Gvir government. The Israeli street is thoroughly behind the Genocide and the polling has been showing this for over a year.